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    Darkling
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    I'd like to add a little clarity to the rumours spreading about CS:S ZE/RU community returning.

    I'll refer to GFLclan.ru as RU and GFLclan.com as GFL to make this easier.

     

    Juky (whom some of you may remember) had got into contact with @Roy as he had some concerns with keeping the server hosted on their end. They then discussed the possible return to us, and before that decision was finalised, there were some terms from both ends.

     

    • Juky, Shinigami and Botox will, at this moment in time, remain banned
    • The server will be moved to our OVH server and the plugins will be recompiled to ensure the servers safety
    • Current permanent VIPs within RU will transfer over to GFL
    • The server will be having 2 server managers (@Dogan and @Backy) from within the RU community—Soft Serve and Vanya’s official ranks are still under discussion
    • The current server rules and admin team of CS:S ZE will remain as they currently are
    • As is currently the norm, global admins (Council/DL/TA) will also respect the rules within that server and will ensure that if they are to join the server that they familiarise themselves with said rules

     

    There are also a couple of points I will mention. For instance, due to the current issues within RU, the donations from RU will not be transferring over to GFL; this is in relation to the issue above about hosting the server. There are also discussions happening to unban Juky (he would not be given a rank), as thanks for bringing both communities together and to enable him to continue playing on CS:S ZE. Feel free to comment your opinion as well.

     

    These are the majority of terms which were discussed and are relatively simple. We would like to ensure that CS:S ZE isn't altered as much as possible, as we don't want to alienate the current players.

    Overall, we believe this is a good step for both communities in burying the hatchet and moving on. I would also like to thank the RU members who have been involved within these discussions, especially Juky, who initially brought this to us and helped find common ground between the communities.

     

    This means that we will start seeing people from RU getting involved within GFL over the next few weeks, I'd love if we could make them feel welcome and get to know each other as one big community bound by a common interest!

     

    If you'd like to read over RU's post on this topic it is here: https://forum.gflclan.ru/d/935-a-tale-of-two-turfs-community-merge-backstory They do cover some points which I haven't within this post.

     

    I am also going to link the CS:S ZE Discord for anyone who is interested in getting to know some of the RU members before this move is fully completed: https://discordapp.com/invite/JyAxA7K

     

    Finally, I’d also like to personally welcome everyone from RU and I hope to get to know as many of you as possible in the near future!

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    52 minutes ago, Xy said:

    I'm going to unlock this as I think this is important for discussion and for questions, but please keep it civil.

     

    Should just lock it, there is no discussion it's only people acting younger than they are....

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    1 minute ago, k2nod said:

     

    Should just lock it, there is no discussion it's only people acting younger than they are....

    I will hide posts if it's irrelevant or someone targeting/being toxic towards to someone else. It's kinda important to have this topic unlocked. 

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    I would definitely vet the plugins and not blindly install the executables.

     

    It's alright to be happy and looking forward to a fruitful transition, but it's not okay to be ignorant...  mitigate the risks for your community members as much as possible.  We've already had multiple security issues and we really struggle to use our lessons learned.

     

    I can't speak for the current leadership team, but what I saw behind the scenes was amateur work.  We would run in circles and have pissing contests.  We would hope for the best... and expect it; any other outcome would be devastating.  I'd rather see careful vetting to find nothing than suffering the consequences of being wrong without checking.

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    1 hour ago, Backy said:

    That's pretty inappropriate and unnecessary. You are disrespecting people that have been in this community much longer than you.

     

    Any vetting and security is obviously already being handled at the top end and bringing something like that up out of the blue just makes 0 sense in any context... all it servers to do is to make people uneasy or angry.

    I'm not even kidding @Backy when I say I wish @Joshy is wrong about what he said, but I can't say he is sadly, I really can't his concerns in all honesty are 100% within reason. I'm not sure if you have been around before the split, and what not but botox in all honesty has made a fool out of gfl many times over, just think how many times he has gained full access, tbh I would not be shocked if he has had more access then roy himself at some points in time. the sad truth is well botox has done some very, some what scummy things, while he may have had good reasons for each action he may have done. the dude in all honesty is to smart for anyone around him, and may have even harmed himself more then once. due to his actions his reputation has been damaged and well you have a decent amount of plugins on your server made by him.

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    Why are people looking for pointless arguments and fights? Behave. It's not that hard, think Staff might not check all the files of the server and is concerned about it? Contact a Staff member. For now, please behave and don't go after pointless discussions.

    Cheers!

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    Holding a big grudge against BotoX/Juky/Shinigami is just pointless. They know that the decision they made 2 years ago wasnt that great but atleast saved most of the money that were actually being robbed at that time, and you guys know it. 

    BotoX made a ton of new plugins for the actual server. Everything is running smootly without any troubles. Im not against that BotoX, neither juky and shinigami should be unbanned, but atleast dont act like they didnt do anything at all to keep the server itself safe. Like I said on my previous post, I hope this merge goes smoothly without any conflict. 

    Keep this thread clean and dont start little childish fights, instead of doing that, actually bring suggestions/ideas for the new merged server that is coming up.  

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    40 minutes ago, Moltard said:

    Botox kinda fixed every ze plugin by himself back when an update broke them. 

     

    all css ze servers runs plugin made by him. They were all public for 1 year on his github page, until he made it private because all servers started looking the same, with nothing new. 

    I'm pretty sure the csgo ze community has used his plugins. I have seen plugins 'made by AntiTeal' which were probably just botox's. 

     

    So ye, like botox or not, ze servers wouldnt be the same without him

    there is no denying that man, when I said the man is smart I ment it and I am very well aware of the fact of the css russian community servers anyways you are preaching to the choir fam.

     

    keep in mind I said he had his reasons for doing the actions he has done either way sadly the past is something we should look at and be somewhat cautions either way my only point in saying what I said was so a single person would not be bashed completely and ik everything is being looked at etc etc his concerns though is within reason and it's something we just need to understand.

     

    I'm not saying anyone is a bad person read over what I said and keep that in mind, the man has fixed countless things and is very smart and had a huge passion and some times passions for things can resort in doing somewhat bad things for said passion the man cared about the community there is no denying that but sometimes people cross lines that would sometimes be considered as taboo by others anyways my point remains.

     

    9 minutes ago, bAka said:

    Holding a big grudge against BotoX/Juky/Shinigami is just pointless. They know that the decision they made 2 years ago wasnt that great but atleast saved most of the money that were actually being robbed at that time, and you guys know it. 

    BotoX made a ton of new plugins for the actual server. Everything is running smootly without any troubles. Im not against that BotoX, neither juky and shinigami should be unbanned, but atleast dont act like they didnt do anything at all to keep the server itself safe. Like I said on my previous post, I hope this merge goes smoothly without any conflict. 

    Keep this thread clean and dont start little childish fights, instead of doing that, actually bring suggestions/ideas for the new merged server that is coming up.

     

    also keep in mind I am not exactly capable of holding much of any grudges which sadly has fucked me over more then once anyways for the most part I just wake up every day with a fresh start I may be truthful and may bring up the giant purple elephant in the room but in all honesty I don't have time for any grudges so you might wanna look else where for those.

     

    2 minutes ago, Malal said:

    When your SQL gets dumped twice I think it has more to do with you being stupid than the other guy being smart.

     

    I wish I was the owner of gfl sadly I can't say I could solve those issues how ever ripping on gfl nonstop is what I do and mocking gfl higher ups is what I am good at. so I kinda am somewhat of the reason of a little bit of security increase in terms of how strong it is so you are welcome I guess?

    but yea man preaching to the choir and this shit is kinda getting awkward.

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