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40 minutes ago, Moltard said:

Botox kinda fixed every ze plugin by himself back when an update broke them. 

 

all css ze servers runs plugin made by him. They were all public for 1 year on his github page, until he made it private because all servers started looking the same, with nothing new. 

I'm pretty sure the csgo ze community has used his plugins. I have seen plugins 'made by AntiTeal' which were probably just botox's. 

 

So ye, like botox or not, ze servers wouldnt be the same without him

there is no denying that man, when I said the man is smart I ment it and I am very well aware of the fact of the css russian community servers anyways you are preaching to the choir fam.

 

keep in mind I said he had his reasons for doing the actions he has done either way sadly the past is something we should look at and be somewhat cautions either way my only point in saying what I said was so a single person would not be bashed completely and ik everything is being looked at etc etc his concerns though is within reason and it's something we just need to understand.

 

I'm not saying anyone is a bad person read over what I said and keep that in mind, the man has fixed countless things and is very smart and had a huge passion and some times passions for things can resort in doing somewhat bad things for said passion the man cared about the community there is no denying that but sometimes people cross lines that would sometimes be considered as taboo by others anyways my point remains.

 

9 minutes ago, bAka said:

Holding a big grudge against BotoX/Juky/Shinigami is just pointless. They know that the decision they made 2 years ago wasnt that great but atleast saved most of the money that were actually being robbed at that time, and you guys know it. 

BotoX made a ton of new plugins for the actual server. Everything is running smootly without any troubles. Im not against that BotoX, neither juky and shinigami should be unbanned, but atleast dont act like they didnt do anything at all to keep the server itself safe. Like I said on my previous post, I hope this merge goes smoothly without any conflict. 

Keep this thread clean and dont start little childish fights, instead of doing that, actually bring suggestions/ideas for the new merged server that is coming up.

 

also keep in mind I am not exactly capable of holding much of any grudges which sadly has fucked me over more then once anyways for the most part I just wake up every day with a fresh start I may be truthful and may bring up the giant purple elephant in the room but in all honesty I don't have time for any grudges so you might wanna look else where for those.

 

2 minutes ago, Malal said:

When your SQL gets dumped twice I think it has more to do with you being stupid than the other guy being smart.

 

I wish I was the owner of gfl sadly I can't say I could solve those issues how ever ripping on gfl nonstop is what I do and mocking gfl higher ups is what I am good at. so I kinda am somewhat of the reason of a little bit of security increase in terms of how strong it is so you are welcome I guess?

but yea man preaching to the choir and this shit is kinda getting awkward.

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For anyone wondering, progress on building the CS:S Zombie Escape server on our machine can be found here:

 

 

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We all need to just get along and forget about what happened in the past , so that we can be a better community in a whole and make this work out.

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Welcome home! Does this mean I get my admin back on the server? :lenny:  /s

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2 minutes ago, Domps VERO.co said:

Unban Juky if for no other reason then to piss off Violator 

who?

https://gflclan.com/profile/76-juky/

ok yea it's already done.

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Didn't get his former staff badge yet?

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Will the server location be changing to a location similar to the CS:GO server? I'm just interested since me along with a lot of fellow Australian/Asian/South American people get better latency on the global offensive server and would (I'd assume) prefer to have the server located in Chicago like the GO server. I understand that a few people may get better latency on the CSS server than the GO one but I'm guessing more people would benefit from the GO server's location. *I'm just sharing my view, don't take it too seriously* :happytree:

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I'd also like to call for the unbanning of juky, shini and botox as well. In short, I was there during that time period, and even from an outside point of view, .coms management was pretty shit. I mean you guys did eventually improve over time and get some your shit together. However, unless you can prove that juky, shini, or botox acted out of ill will or selfishness, you'll end up looking like a bunch of jerks who screwed up big time and then took it out on people who actually cared as for the players and where their donation money was going towards. 

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13 minutes ago, gkuo88 said:

I'd also like to call for the unbanning of juky, shini and botox as well. In short, I was there during that time period, and even from an outside point of view, .coms management was pretty shit. I mean you guys did eventually improve over time and get some your shit together. However, unless you can prove that juky, shini, or botox acted out of ill will or selfishness, you'll end up looking like a bunch of jerks who screwed up big time and then took it out on people who actually cared as for the players and where their donation money was going towards. 

Juky is unbanned already.

 

Juky, Shini and BotoX could easily have brought up to Roy and the current Council members, yet they moved the servers. While yes, they took care of ZE.

 

Our donation money have always gone towards paying the boxes, ever since SoJa was banned of course.

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Then follow up with botox and shini plz. They made those choices out of goodwill. At the same time should we also hold the entire rest of the council to blame for not noticing that money was missing? Even when you guys had the #1 Community servers on both CSS and CSGO? (CSGO being the 2nd most played game on steam at the time) Even when you realized that you were low on money, the first choice of action was to implement ads rather than checking the books? And for a few months no one else noticed anything or brought up anything until the split finally occurred?

 

Face it, both groups have faults, but its a dickish move to pinpoint it all on one group. There was barely even an opposition at that time because management was bad enough that many players actually knew of it and were upset. I understand the aspect of removing power from them, but denying them to play zombie escape is pretty much childish revenge. Seriously what harm can they do?

 

 

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Are Botox and Shini even asking?  It sounds me to me like an unban would be more ceremonial than functional.  Probably not even a big deal...  I would imagine if I were in a position of leadership, then I would probably lift the ban just to entertain you and others.

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27 minutes ago, Joshy said:

Are Botox and Shini even asking?  It sounds me to me like an unban would be more ceremonial than functional.  Probably not even a big deal...  I would imagine if I were in a position of leadership, then I would probably lift the ban just to entertain you and others.

I saw Botox on CSS today and I'm assuming he was on ZE so I figure he'd still like to at least play on the server he worked on from time to time.

If it's not a big deal than unban them, it's not like they can harm the server if unbanned

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I'm not in a position of leadership or trust here.

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7 minutes ago, Shuruia said:

I won't comment on BotoX since I never cared to associate with him, but I can comment on Shini since I know him more than the majority of people in .ru, barring a few. Shini and I used to speak fairly frequently, and I can absolutely tell you that Shini is NOT a good person. Besides going beyond the scope of .ru and admitting that he only wanted to spite Roy, he was also early to admit that the servers he acquired AFTER CS:S ZE was a matter of theft. The unofficial policy held by .ru higher-ups at the time—including Juky—was that it wasn't theft, but rather "taking back" what belonged to them. Not quite the case with Shini.

 

I know Juky had good intentions, and I don't know about BotoX, but I can assure you that Shini was devoid of "goodwill". I'm not really interested in debating the rights and wrongs of something that happened two years ago, but I felt as though I had to make it clear that Shini is rotten.

 

I was Council at the time, and we (Council) didn't have any form of control or access to view the background actions in the finances. People could come up with whatever theories they wanted as to why the PayPal balance was falling so low, but nothing was proven until BotoX made it public. People were right to suspect at the time that Roy was aware of SoJa taking the money (even if he's actually innocent), but there's no reason to think any further than that.

I suppose I will add to this I was waiting for someone else to say something but iirc even @juky was not exactly for the servers @shinigami_senpai took and was informed about it after the fact and went along with it so sadly you are not wrong about what you are saying I don't personally like you or agreeing with you on things but I mean you are not wrong about this.

 

and as for botox he is well a lose cannon @Major_Push made a very good analogy ages ago with him and iirc it was pretty much the concept scorpion asking for frog to give him a ride across the river at some point in time scorpion decided to slip with the stinger and kill the frog and they both died all due to a simply well angry creature being left alone and allowed to make use of a frog which was a peaceful creature who could keep things afloat.

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12 hours ago, Shuruia said:

I was Council at the time, and we (Council) didn't have any form of control or access to view the background actions in the finances. People could come up with whatever theories they wanted as to why the PayPal balance was falling so low, but nothing was proven until BotoX made it public. People were right to suspect at the time that Roy was aware of SoJa taking the money (even if he's actually innocent), but there's no reason to think any further than that.

 

Sorry but I have got to argue with that last point here. What sort of "council" were you guys anyways? Cause from what it sounds it seems you guys were more of a mouthpiece for those who actually got to make any sort of decision. You were already getting into financial decisions with implementing ads and no one cared to think a tiny bit farther "hey maybe we should look into this so players shouldn't have to deal with more annoyances on the servers"? The moment the lack of donations began to actively take a toll on the players, it should have been the time to at least do something. Who exactly was supposed to have brought this up? If the council, the second highest authority here, didn't find reason think any further, then wouldn't the problem have continually persisted? If a similar incident occurs in the future, are we supposed to wait until one of the four directors finally decides to think a bit further?

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7 minutes ago, gkuo88 said:

 

Sorry but I have got to argue with that last point here. What sort of "council" were you guys anyways? Cause from what it sounds it seems you guys were more of a mouthpiece for those who actually got to make any sort of decision. You were already getting into financial decisions with implementing ads and no one cared to think a tiny bit farther "hey maybe we should look into this so players shouldn't have to deal with more annoyances on the servers"? The moment the lack of donations began to actively take a toll on the players, it should have been the time to at least do something. Who exactly was supposed to have brought this up? If the council, the second highest authority here, didn't find reason think any further, then wouldn't the problem have continually persisted? If a similar incident occurs in the future, are we supposed to wait until one of the four directors finally decides to think a bit further?

Let's keep it civil just do this in private messages.

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2 hours ago, gkuo88 said:

 

Sorry but I have got to argue with that last point here. What sort of "council" were you guys anyways? Cause from what it sounds it seems you guys were more of a mouthpiece for those who actually got to make any sort of decision. You were already getting into financial decisions with implementing ads and no one cared to think a tiny bit farther "hey maybe we should look into this so players shouldn't have to deal with more annoyances on the servers"? The moment the lack of donations began to actively take a toll on the players, it should have been the time to at least do something. Who exactly was supposed to have brought this up? If the council, the second highest authority here, didn't find reason think any further, then wouldn't the problem have continually persisted? If a similar incident occurs in the future, are we supposed to wait until one of the four directors finally decides to think a bit further?

His Council would be the equivalent of Directors if today. The old Council had more power and were the highest rank.

 

 

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People who ask questions get demoted.

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How come I'm not demoted then? :kappa::lenny: 

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3 hours ago, gkuo88 said:

 

Sorry but I have got to argue with that last point here. What sort of "council" were you guys anyways? Cause from what it sounds it seems you guys were more of a mouthpiece for those who actually got to make any sort of decision. You were already getting into financial decisions with implementing ads and no one cared to think a tiny bit farther "hey maybe we should look into this so players shouldn't have to deal with more annoyances on the servers"? The moment the lack of donations began to actively take a toll on the players, it should have been the time to at least do something. Who exactly was supposed to have brought this up? If the council, the second highest authority here, didn't find reason think any further, then wouldn't the problem have continually persisted? If a similar incident occurs in the future, are we supposed to wait until one of the four directors finally decides to think a bit further?

I suppose I can answer your question so what happened was no one could see the donations or the money in the bank we can't exactly blame the old council as iirc they did not have access to see it and well many of the people who had council at the time where also the same people that where doing the whole split there was maybe like 2 other people who where not a part of it iirc and @Shuruia was one of those two botox being well botox obtained access to see the records by not so what I would call legal means and these means of obtaining access to see the records that where not public in any shape or form where most likely illegal and highly invasive so long story short the one thing the council lacked at the time was the ability to see the donations as the donations themselfs where not even up on the forums for a very long time about a whole year if you are wondering there was no donations for gfl IPS plugin aka this box nRA1JthMRWiCAplPr3EQow.png was not on the forums and the last time it was seen and I even remember talking with calvin at the time and people where happy about it because it hit 17k something and I remember calvin bringing it up ages ago while in ts3 with him and the only person you could even look at who tbf was completely within reason of not checking up on it every day of his life was well @Roy simply because he had @SoJa take care of that.

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49 minutes ago, Joshy said:

People who ask questions get demoted.

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