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So i recently started playing less on gfl for the simple reason: It's just not fun anymore. The server is full of f2p players or just the noobies and really, u can barely call gfl a ze server anymore. The only thing they do is play casual maps (not really a problem) but they don't even try to win them. They just all run around, try to be the funniest guy on the voice chat and then they spam rtv. The only times when we can play is when we get like 15 regulars on so we can manipulate the voting process by taking all the noms and spamming like autistic kids oursleves. I'm sure that im not the only one who thinks this way.

 

I mean either remove the f2p players or make a 2nd server for only prime players. Or just do something cause the whole ze experience is getting ruined lol. I get more frustrated playing on gfl then i'm having fun. Even the admins don't even bother muting them anymore cause it's just too much to handle.

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This is a tough topic with few good solutions. Personally I think the only way us as players can solve this is through patience. I've seen a lot of new players grow, get more involved, learn how to win maps, and lead. This does mean we will have to really be patient and although it may be tough, we have have to stay positive. The only way to get these newer players to learn and come back is to help them. If they don't like it and only want to say stupid shit on the mic all day they will eventually get bored and go play some surf or something.

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2 hours ago, Ninja Chris said:

 

was this supposed to be hilarious... yikes

was this supposed to invoke laughter... yikes

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Wow, it's almost as if this is a community server for players to have fun and know when to tryhard when needed

 

And I'll have to agree with @Elemental here, I've seen more new players trying to the learn the game mode. Everyone's got to start off somewhere. We all know you are born the best and toxic ZE player, but not everyone is like you. Why do you have to blame all F2P players, they've got the chance to start playing and trying out ZE, why not teach them? You're probably going to say you've tried, but then again, you can't force everyone to listen. Not everyone from the bunch of F2P players should be deserved to be removed from the server just because they didn't buy prime status, and if so they break the rules, wouldn't a player report help? 

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I think the best solution is to give @FzFuRy admin for a day and see how he handles the situation so the other admins can learn from him.

 

This is a serious suggestion and I am clearly not trying to provoke him in any way so please no banerino. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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idk where fury is coming from but personally whenever i choose to come on i play with tryhards and have a great time around 90% of the time. If the server isnt playing the map i want or the people on arent the people i like, i just fucking leave :). Maybe you should stop playing ze so much cause you are bound to experience some degree of autism from noobies, and if you dont wanna do that stop expecting a server of 64 people to conform to your desires. 

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fury I left to pretend to be a mapper for a few weeks (btw, ze_LOTR_Mirkwood waiting to be uploaded for test snowy... <3) but I'm finished now and will be back to help shepherd the young ones... 

 

really, you can complain like 95% of the regulars or we can just try to help the noobs learn the maps and strats and the game mode... I see it as making less zombies to try and kill me in the long run...

 

totally agree with you about the mic spam though... way too many aspiring twitch streamers coming on and trying to be the most funny and edgy guy on mic... I though we had a rule about edging!?!?!?! A tryhard server for prime only does sound kinda nice though tbh... 

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i still dont understand the reasoning between not allowing no steam before the update and allowing free accounts now after the update

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Everyone isnt perfect at the start of ze they learn to be better. Give others a chance since the server is always changing. For example we dont have like have elementals from other servers that are decent switch servers. Theres always new people to come replace others. Most of the players you liked have basically retired. Spacecow, Koala, quia, bloodyare barely on so you feel more lonely...The only admins I see a lot are val and sneaky but other times theres no admins when i play. The server is a bit short staffed right now.  

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17 hours ago, EnickTheDemon said:

The server is a bit short staffed right now.  

THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO BE ADMIN!!!

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Get a mic and lead. People rtv tryhard maps often because they know from experience they aren't going to win certain maps after a few rounds where they haven't gone far and there isn't anyone leading. Also if you lead, you have higher chance of working with admins, who are more likely to mute spammers. If no one leads, the admins will see no reason to mute people.

 

Theres no proof that f2p players are the ones ruining your experience. If there is a significant increase in f2p players its time to get a second server. cause we running out of room. Having a second server for elitist only is only going to die, server survival is built upon casuals who keep the server populated during the vast majority of time especially when there is no leading. If the casuals get their comfy experience ruined forcefully or are forced to tryhard constantly, then they simply tire out more often or stop playing when they find the experience not fun. If it continues like this, then the server ends up not being populated most of the time and the tryhards have less of a reason to come onto the server when its half empty. Expecting the server to tryhard immediately when you come onto the server is stupid. It can still happen if you get a mic and lead, but if you're not willing to put in that effort, then you shouldnt expect the server to pander to you.

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26 minutes ago, gkuo88 said:

Theres no proof that f2p players are the ones ruining your experience

you don't need scientific proof to have an opinion 

 

26 minutes ago, gkuo88 said:

Get a mic and lead

he does lead and he has a mic

26 minutes ago, gkuo88 said:

 Expecting the server to tryhard immediately when you come onto the server is stupid.

that isnt his point

27 minutes ago, gkuo88 said:

It can still happen if you get a mic and lead, but if you're not willing to put in that effort, then you shouldnt expect the server to pander to you.

this is the only thing that matters in ur block of text

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38 minutes ago, Flops said:

you don't need scientific proof to have an opinion 

 Then he should come to terms that his opinion is his own problems. Does he have any way to differentiate between these 2 groups and determine whos doing the voting, micspamming, and running around? Is there any logical thought process explaining why f2p players would spam rtv or create trouble compared to the normal crowd? If he can't present anything, then how is he going to convince people that f2p players are the ones creating the problems?

 

Heck if the map is casual, why does it even matter? Casual maps are built on the aspect that you dont need alot of players to try to win in order to win. If all of a sudden it requires a decent team to win a casual map, then somethings wrong with the server settings or the map isn't really casual to begin with. *Remov bhop cancer*

 

51 minutes ago, Flops said:

he does lead and he has a mic

great. But note this just increases the chances of people tryharding, not guarantee it. Sometimes players have already tryharded for 3 hours and they don't want to tryhard anymore. Maybe its one of those maps which were so hard, its reputation has sunk to sheit, that players will actively oppose playing it even with people pushing for it. Heck even if you have a mic, it doesnt mean people will listen to what you say, and if you lead on only a few maps only then of course people will think you're a mapfag who is simply using others. If the leading is controlling or toxic, then you shouldn't be expecting people to listen either.

 

58 minutes ago, Flops said:

that isnt his point

Dude complains that the game isnt fun because people aren't playing the way he wants them to play. Seriously what is anyone supposed to do about this? Majority win. If he wants a greater level of challenge he should go to minigame servers or bhop servers, because those gamemodes are built around the individual rather than built around a 64 player democracy.

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Oh wait if you guys are talking about shit like minas, mako, westersand, that shits always going to be despised due to the autistic elitist fanbase that surrounds it. It's been going on for years, and some people just dont want to give up any part of it.

 

- elitist mentality in general to push this crap and then blame the created mess onto other players

- no leading on even the first stages, prompting new players to proceed to play a tryhard map and lose every single round for one to two hours (yea, they definitely wish to come back to the map next time)

- item trolling permitted here and there as long as they beat the map prompting players who attempt to enjoy or learn the map have their teammates ruin their fun

- fucking bhop permitted along with the attraction of a fockton of ff fags creating an army of bhoppers that even the elites don't wish to defend against (in short, expect alot of doorhuggers)

- fockin bhop ensuring the same people get the items every single round, new players will never get to use them

- damn tradition calling for items to be used only a specific locations, limiting any sort of experimentation, giving reason to restrict new players easily

- focking army of bhopers such a pain in the ass that items have to be used in a specific location cause the entire defense depends on them 

- no teamwork/covering in general because elites wish for as many people to die as possible (muh solo), only for the humans to be overrun by zombies later, wasting another round

- session to be dragged on extra long due to constant losing at the first several levels due to too much focking around (gotta get that solo even on lv 1), prompting players to blame the "shit team"

- even if a winning streak was to occur, the elites will bitch for the settings to be changed or attempt further sabatoge to reduce the number of winners to make themselves feel more special

- leaders even attempting to salvage the mess or getting new players to enjoy the map end up being backstabbed by the elites later on, making it even harder for new players to consider the map in the future

- micspamming for the voting of the map only for new players to lose every single round

 

You just cant win with these things lol.

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14 hours ago, gkuo88 said:

Oh wait if you guys are talking about shit like minas, mako, westersand, that shits always going to be despised due to the autistic elitist fanbase that surrounds it. It's been going on for years, and some people just dont want to give up any part of it.

 

- elitist mentality in general to push this crap and then blame the created mess onto other players

- no leading on even the first stages, prompting new players to proceed to play a tryhard map and lose every single round for one to two hours (yea, they definitely wish to come back to the map next time)

- item trolling permitted here and there as long as they beat the map prompting players who attempt to enjoy or learn the map have their teammates ruin their fun

- fucking bhop permitted along with the attraction of a fockton of ff fags creating an army of bhoppers that even the elites don't wish to defend against (in short, expect alot of doorhuggers)

- fockin bhop ensuring the same people get the items every single round, new players will never get to use them

- damn tradition calling for items to be used only a specific locations, limiting any sort of experimentation, giving reason to restrict new players easily

- focking army of bhopers such a pain in the ass that items have to be used in a specific location cause the entire defense depends on them 

- no teamwork/covering in general because elites wish for as many people to die as possible (muh solo), only for the humans to be overrun by zombies later, wasting another round

- session to be dragged on extra long due to constant losing at the first several levels due to too much focking around (gotta get that solo even on lv 1), prompting players to blame the "shit team"

- even if a winning streak was to occur, the elites will bitch for the settings to be changed or attempt further sabatoge to reduce the number of winners to make themselves feel more special

- leaders even attempting to salvage the mess or getting new players to enjoy the map end up being backstabbed by the elites later on, making it even harder for new players to consider the map in the future

- micspamming for the voting of the map only for new players to lose every single round

 

You just cant win with these things lol.

 

Mah boi

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Like everyone said, since the server will not and also can not do something about that, you only have 6 choices to face this problem:

1. Stay patient and keep silent (there are a feature called !sm and !report)

2. Lead the team, teach them what to do and what you can't do in ZE

3. Move to other server or disconnect then play a prime matchmaking, reach GE and do live stream (you also can earn money with that than just wasting time by playing ZE)

4. Type "quit" on console

5. Move to another game

6. Uninstall csgo and enjoy RL

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5 minutes ago, mikasa said:

4. Type "quit" on console

5. Move to another game

6. Uninstall csgo and enjoy RL

I like the last 3.

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OP is gay and a tryhard because he doesn't like that new people want to have fun and learn to play and I would not have sex with him.

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I mean for the people whining that i'm a tryhard and this and that bla bla bla. You all saying give them time to learn the maps and stuff. I totally i agree with that. But tbh, some people wanna learn and others not. And the feeling i get on the server these last days is that they don't give a fuck lol. They don't wanna win, they don't wanna learn. As i already said they just use the server as a discord and try to be the funniest guy. And not being toxic but all of the people who commented here and don't even fucking play on the server. Bro your argument is fking irrelevant. You people have no idea what's going on. Literally nobody even bothers going on the server anymore (same for admins. But yeah blame it on 'being short staffed' lol). Last time i tried to lead everyone was just talking over me. When i try to learn items to people they just don't listen and miss-use them. Admins propably won't do shit about this since u all casual players and u don't give a fuck. But yeah for all the regulars of GFL. ZE experience ruined and that's a fact :)

 

As for @EnickTheDemon.

1. Your irrelevant

2. Nobody wants to see u become admin (not talking about your discord friends, but the people who actually play on the server)

3. I don't even see u as a GFL regular

4. Your trash at ZE so don't even talk about teaching players cause u obviously can't even do that much.

 

Not being toxic btw. Just stating facts and expressing how i feel in my own FuRy way.

 

And for the solutions. Like gkuo you litterally typing a fking bibble on why not to make an 'elitist' server. Bro i don't even care about that aslong as the 2nd server would be prime accounts i'm happy. You think i would wanna play tryhard maps 24/7 lol. There should just be good mix of both. But right now it's just spamming that 4 button and go to the new map. Beating the map naaah nobody cares about that. Aslong as they get to see something new where they can run around for 30 min and make edgy jokes it's fine. Cause that's what ze is about nowadays lol

 

I recommend to you people to go on the server and play for a bit. U can go see how fun it is for yourselves :)

 

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Regardless of how you guys personally feel about OP, I feel like most of you guys have missed his point entirely. No one's asking for the server to be full laserfag tryhard 24/7, but hes asking for players to at least put some effort into gameplay (even if they're new or not very good at ZE) and not join just to shit up the server with micspam and memes. There's no real point in trying to be patient with them because they just exist to try to ruin the game for others, so you have to treat them like they are - nothing.

 

In case you guys don't want a second, prime-only server, here's some actual real alternative solutions to help mitigate the problem:

 

1. eban all new players until they accumulate X hours of playtime on the server (X value set to server managers' discretion).

2. Make f2p players unable to use voice until they accumulate X hours of playtime on the server (idk if this is possible).

3. If things get bad, admins should consider doing mute-rounds, where only the designated leader is allowed to use voice chat.

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1 hour ago, FzFuRy said:

I mean for the people whining that i'm a tryhard and this and that bla bla bla. You all saying give them time to learn the maps and stuff. I totally i agree with that. But tbh, some people wanna learn and others not. And the feeling i get on the server these last days is that they don't give a fuck lol. They don't wanna win, they don't wanna learn. As i already said they just use the server as a discord and try to be the funniest guy. And not being toxic but all of the people who commented here and don't even fucking play on the server. Bro your argument is fking irrelevant. You people have no idea what's going on. Literally nobody even bothers going on the server anymore (same for admins. But yeah blame it on 'being short staffed' lol). Last time i tried to lead everyone was just talking over me. When i try to learn items to people they just don't listen and miss-use them. Admins propably won't do shit about this since u all casual players and u don't give a fuck. But yeah for all the regulars of GFL. ZE experience ruined and that's a fact :)

 

As for @EnickTheDemon.

1. Your irrelevant

2. Nobody wants to see u become admin (not talking about your discord friends, but the people who actually play on the server)

3. I don't even see u as a GFL regular

4. Your trash at ZE so don't even talk about teaching players cause u obviously can't even do that much.

 

Not being toxic btw. Just stating facts and expressing how i feel in my own FuRy way.

 

And for the solutions. Like gkuo you litterally typing a fking bibble on why not to make an 'elitist' server. Bro i don't even care about that aslong as the 2nd server would be prime accounts i'm happy. You think i would wanna play tryhard maps 24/7 lol. There should just be good mix of both. But right now it's just spamming that 4 button and go to the new map. Beating the map naaah nobody cares about that. Aslong as they get to see something new where they can run around for 30 min and make edgy jokes it's fine. Cause that's what ze is about nowadays lol

 

I recommend to you people to go on the server and play for a bit. U can go see how fun it is for yourselves :)

 

"im not sperging im just stating facts !1!1!1!"
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31 minutes ago, Citizen said:

There's no real point in trying to be patient with them because they just exist to try to ruin the game for others, so you have to treat them like they are - nothing.

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