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lolman265

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  1. Hey, posting this from the other side! I just wanted to show my perspective on some things, without causing any harm. Originally, we were just going to let the forum post stay up for a while and let people voice their thoughts, and of course we knew some people would think about this more thoroughly. WillyWilison and Vauff made really good points without really knowing what's going on and I'm really happy that someone took the time to look more into it. I believe the term poaching is also being blown out of proportion. The LBG community wasn’t initially ‘poaching’ members, everyone that came to LBG were either banned or were following Roy. The people that left were just sick of all the drama and realized how GFL was run around nepotism. Most people just hate the Council because there's usually just one opinion from everyone and/or some people just said they never really got the help they needed.

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    What I don't understand is that you guys say we are poaching members and don't even take into account why people are leaving? Again Gfl is much bigger then LBG, why would people wanna help out with such a smaller server? Have you guys ever considered and stopped for a second to see the real issues? Then again we aren't even offering people much, the other day we had someone join LBG from GFL, Infra decided to dm them stating why they felt uncomfortable that they were working for LBG. Asking if he would be opposed to him asking if he can resign from us. We never had an issue if LBG staff are also working for GFL staff. We do think it's a user's choice, plus it's a gaming community. If someone wants to work in one or more communities for the fun of it, let them! Obviously as long as there’s no malicious intent. There's nobody really in the power to do that even if they wanted to. To my understanding Fafy and only Roy could, and both don’t have any intentions to harm GFL besides the incident this thread related to.

     

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    About Roy, It's not my place to tell you how to think, or to forgive him of course. Again, you guys know him, he was your friend, a partner, just someone you could talk to. Have you stopped to consider why he lashed out? Personally, I just think how disgusting it was for Infra to even say he wanted to end ‘’Roy's career’’, but again using your own logic, you were mad in the heat of the moment and didn't really mean what you said.(I also kind of find it hypocritical that you say that because Roy was also emotional during the stuff he had said too along with being very drunk and high). I know what he did was still fucked up and again, it’s okay for people to not want to forgive him after what he did, but I just want to show both sides have both said something shitty out of emotions.
     
    Talking about Benroy being friends with Roy, even knowing what Roy has done, showed Roy as a concerned friend. We are talking about defamation here, this is just taking a step out of GFL. The fact you guys never gave Benroy any closure. While infra was going off on chat about who leaked to Roy. Benroy was genuinely scared to speak out, he had to tell aurora! Im just saying that it fucking sucks that he was scared for something like that. It's a gaming community, people! The dude basically doesn't wanna be in any community now. He just wanted to be a part of something with people he enjoyed talking to. It sucks that he can't even voice his opinion just to get backlashes from people he considers friends.
    (I know you also recently just added this screenshot, but I don’t think people even saw this, because it was recently edited)


    Trying to explain Roy's emotions through the whole thing, the dude was obviously very intoxicated and emotional about everything. Roy seeing GFL, and taking closer looks at how toxic it was, and felt like he was losing everything he fought really hard to grow, obviously he would lash out. Roy spent so much money on Gfl, the dude practically ran it as a kid. He didn't like where GFL was heading and did things he shouldn't have done.He felt pretty shitty how his old community was trying to restrict his growth in his new community.

    I'm just saying if Roy really wanted to, he could have just deleted GFL and gone along with it, if he really wanted to he could have just taken all the money. Just saying during all that Roy still owned GFL as a business entity. Technically now, there is no paperwork that Roy has given ownership but I believe they are in the process of this? I'm not saying this threateningly, I'm just saying if he really wanted to he would. Everyone says things when they are emotional, that's just human nature, you guys basically took one huge negative thing he has done, made it public, and want everyone to think of him that way.

    There’s also been a rumor spreading that Roy is hiding all of this, that he never owned up or tried to come back to make amends, but he doesn’t want to go back to that toxic and emotional mindset where he was drunk every day (he’s over two months sober IIRC). And he has been open with everything he has done and he made a Google doc nearly two months ago, tagged @ everyone in LBG on what he has done during that time, also told aurora to show people from gfl, but it seems not many people received the document until this thread was made (at least some Technical Administrators and Server Managers). He dmed me personally about it as well and I truly believe he is sorry.

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    (The doc in question)
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    (I know it was on this forum post, just didn’t think people has read it since its at the very bottom, doesn't hurt to post it twice)

     

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    At the end of the day you can’t really fix anything that has happened, I understand how traumatizing or how it affected other people, I’m just asking for a second of everyone’s time to understand the other side. Again everything happens for a reason.

    (ps infra I think your a cool person, no negativity towards you, nor anyone else)

    Posting this all anonymously because it's just what we all think, not just one person. Also like benroy, very scared 😁☺️

    Anyways, regardless of this post, I do hope both communities can finally move on after this and there won’t be anymore major conflicts like the Roy incidents and threads like this. I think I can speak for all of us that this drama is annoying and both communities should just go their separate ways.

    DRUMROLLLL PLEASSSSEEEE (End Scene)

     

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