How bout that EU eh?

[CheapTactic 74 / 3,855]

8 hours ago, Captain141 said:

Are you ready for a fractured UK, an Irish Reunification, and an Independent Scotland, I know I am. qq -cri-

UK won't be fractured and the rest are just basically natural questions that England itself has nothing to do with, if Ireland wants to reunify then its their choice, if Scots want independence like England got just now, its their choice.

 

 

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21 hours ago, LionelMoosi said:

Economically Britain is about to hit a recession

There is no reason why they would hit a recession. Moreover, when they leave the EU, they'll finally be allowed to lower their taxes below the EU minimum (then privatise 90% of the public infrastructure and eliminate bureaucracy) to board the recovery train (plus pay off their debt). The question is: will they? If not, recession indeed.

 

The recipe for a good economy is universal: one free market, zero socialism.

 

21 hours ago, LionelMoosi said:

 The country will stabilize, perhaps without Scotland, and perhaps after Cameron has left office.

Especially after Cameron has left office. That guy acts against the will of the market.

 

18 hours ago, Captain141 said:

Are you ready for a fractured UK, an Irish Reunification, and an Independent Scotland, I know I am. qq -cri-

If ethnic groups feel too different from each other, then so be it.

Edited June 25, 2016 by TSARGA

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2 hours ago, TSARGA said:

There is no reason why they would hit a recession. Moreover, when they leave the EU, they'll finally be allowed to lower their taxes below the EU minimum (then privatise 90% of the public infrastructure and eliminate bureaucracy) to board the recovery train (plus pay off their debt). The question is: will they? If not, recession indeed.

 

The recipe for a good economy is universal: one free market, zero socialism.

 

Especially after Cameron has left office. That guy acts against the will of the market.

 

If ethnic groups feel too different from each other, then so be it.

 

Not to be a dick, but a part of me is saying "it can't be that simple".

 

I wonder why that is? Anyway, thank god the solution is so simple. Now we'll never have a financial crisis ever again.

 

Edit:

I'm editing it because I was kind of a dick. 

 

To clarify, I agree with you on the fact that a recession isn't guaranteed. But I disagree with your solution simply because I doubt the solution is that simple because the economy is dependent on people and people are unpredictable. I think something that will help is if everyone stays calm and carries on with their business as usual. If everyone freaks out and stops spending/investing because they think things are going to go wrong then things will surely go wrong.

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4 hours ago, Major_Push said:

 

Not to be a dick, but a part of me is saying "it can't be that simple".

 

I wonder why that is? Anyway, thank god the solution is so simple. Now we'll never have a financial crisis ever again.

 

Edit:

I'm editing it because I was kind of a dick. 

 

To clarify, I agree with you on the fact that a recession isn't guaranteed. But I disagree with your solution simply because I doubt the solution is that simple because the economy is dependent on people and people are unpredictable. I think something that will help is if everyone stays calm and carries on with their business as usual. If everyone freaks out and stops spending/investing because they think things are going to go wrong then things will surely go wrong.

While I also agree that maybe that solution is not the best one(Not because its too simple, simple ideas can work too), but also I have to add that probably the huge fear is to countless banks and officials panicking and bringing "doomsday" prophecies days before the vote took place, so in the short term some people are just unsure or afraid to make moves due to uncertainty. 

 

The people should calm down and keep on working, same with the investors and etc...

Edited June 26, 2016 by CheapTactic

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Just now, CheapTactic said:

While I also agree that maybe that solution is not the best one(Not because its too simple, simple ideas can work too), but also I have to add that probably the huge fear is to countless banks and officials panicking and bringing "doomsday" prophecies days before the vote took place.

 

The people should calm down and keep on working, same with the investors and etc...

Pretty much.

 

don't want it to become a self fulfilling prophecy. 

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1 minute ago, Major_Push said:

Pretty much.

 

don't want it to become a self fulfilling prophecy. 

I'd say we are going to need to wait a few actual years to see how the economy will go after they exit the EU.

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so how bout that eu eh?

[TSARGA 57 / 3,122]

8 hours ago, Major_Push said:

Not to be a dick, but a part of me is saying "it can't be that simple".

 

I wonder why that is? Anyway, thank god the solution is so simple.

Because production and distribution correlate with each other through the law of spontaneous order. It's that simple.

 

8 hours ago, Major_Push said:

Now we'll never have a financial crisis ever again.

Spoiler

 

 

8 hours ago, Major_Push said:

To clarify, I agree with you on the fact that a recession isn't guaranteed. But I disagree with your solution simply because I doubt the solution is that simple because the economy is dependent on people and people are unpredictable. I think something that will help is if everyone stays calm and carries on with their business as usual. If everyone freaks out and stops spending/investing because they think things are going to go wrong then things will surely go wrong.

Again, spontaneous order.

 

The biggest unpredictable quantity is the government, not the people. People are more afraid of the government than volcanoes: you can predict a volcanic eruption to avoid economic loss, because there are quakes, changes in ground temperature and everything, but there is no verified way to predict the stupidity of the government.

Edited June 26, 2016 by TSARGA

[CNe7532294 171 / 4,777]

My prediction. EU fails in the end. In fact its actually been a good long run. Long before Brexit was conceived we wondered how in the world can you pit so many different cultures together in one union? However, in the long run, it'll probably get replaced by something hopefully better. Case in point. League of Nations preceding the UN. Yes the UN has flaws and may not even work out as well but it sure seems a heck of alot better than the LoN simply cause the LoN failed to stop what it was intended to stop .... a World War.

 

As someone mentioned, with progress we have to step back from time to time and not view it as a step backwards but as a way of reflection, trying to look and sort out at where we stand, and maybe "taking a breather". This holds true to the common saying "Rome was not built in one day". It seems like we must just build things in one day given technology has brought us all together (ie. Interwebz, facepoke, and tweettweet) and our fast paced world demands decisions on the spot however there are still problems that need solving first before moving on. Why are 51% of people in the UK, whom were motivated enough to vote in awful weather, dissatisfied with the EU?. Yes thats close to half and you'd think that having half is saying this vote should be redone or should not have happened. Not exactly. Even if Brexit was 30%, this is still a huge number of people. Should we forget about them or just let their discontent grow even larger in the future? If Scotland and Ireland decide its time as well then sure why not? Last time Scotland voted 45%. I'd also love to see Ireland reunited again (so my Catholic friends have something else to talk about :lenny:).

 

Next up is the US. Why are so many people voting for bizarre candidates? I just simply want a president that sets the standard everyone should try to live up to with whats been given (the current and the last one do not earn this title). All the current candidates suck. Yes even the popular ones.

 

PS:Btw 4chan tapped the media's ass today with a petition. Feels great much  

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13 hours ago, CNe7532294 said:

My prediction. EU fails in the end. In fact its actually been a good long run.

14 hours ago, CNe7532294 said:

Why are 51% of people in the UK, whom were motivated enough to vote in awful weather, dissatisfied with the EU?.

The EU was supposed to be a better EEC. It was supposed to be some kind of additional organ of state which was supposed to protect people for the price of the sovereignty (not autonomy, as some pro-Brexit activists lied) of the states that occupy their territory. Indeed, freedom is worth much more than sovereignty, but then wild EU laws appeared: tax floors and market regulations. This shows that the EU cares about the governments, not the people. If they really cared about the people, they would have imposed tax ceilings and market liberties.

 

Apart from that, the EU is controlled by Maoists and Marxists, so it fails in the end.

 

14 hours ago, CNe7532294 said:

Long before Brexit was conceived we wondered how in the world can you pit so many different cultures together in one union?

What do cultures have to do with an economic union?

 

14 hours ago, CNe7532294 said:

However, in the long run, it'll probably get replaced by something hopefully better.

Yep, by the EEC plus Schengen... or the EAEU plus Schengen, because why not?

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I don't know if its 100% true, but German and French foreign ministers met and spoke about a 'superstate', basically rendering small countries useless and independent-less, stripped of what control they had over their countries by the  super state("4th Socialist Reich").

 

I hope more nations leave this pathetic Union especially in the east, Fuck the EU and fuck Merkel.

 

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit

Edited June 27, 2016 by CheapTactic

[TSARGA 57 / 3,122]

49 minutes ago, CheapTactic said:

I don't know if its 100% true, but German and French foreign ministers met and spoke about a 'superstate', basically rendering small countries useless and independent-less, stripped of what control they had over their countries by the  super state("4th Socialist Reich").

The concept is real, but I think they realised this is impossible. It would end like Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia, cause the nations are too different from each other.

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1 hour ago, TSARGA said:

The concept is real, but I think they realised this is impossible. It would end like Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia, cause the nations are too different from each other.

Lets hope it will end like those countries super state or not.

I don't know if they realized it or not but that's what I read today, didn't see any other news if they backed off from this insane plan.

[CNe7532294 171 / 4,777]

9 hours ago, TSARGA said:

What do cultures have to do with an economic union?

 

Imho if the EU stopped at maintaining euro currency and had a limited or cooperating relationship with a member's Gov't on trade (includes controversial topics like immigration) then it would be an economic union. Going beyond those means that it then goes more into politics and less into economics which usually or supposedly should consider all cultures involved when making a decision. Even looking up EU in google will give that the EU is a political/economic union. Not strictly economic. Case in point, why does one country, have to pay for another country's bills. Basically you'll have a culture believing in maintaining health for its own is best then move on to the help others if possible while another culture believes harmony comes from maintaining the health of others even if itself is in pain. This shouldn't be the decision of a foreign Gov't to make and should be left up to the Gov't considering this dilemma. This is also why I hate media for shoving down polls day by day in a pitiful attempt to sway or influence public opinion. Even now media holds alot of doom and gloom fall-out opinion pieces on how fucked things will be in a decade. That I'll just reserve for another post.

 

Moving to a different location but slightly on topic, I think the US should stop giving money for foreign defense to countries well off in taking care of itself or are none of our business if we care deeply of our economy as well but I'm sure that'll have heads turning. I'm also sure there are a majority of Americans who are thinking the same thing given that I've asked around among other things and this is why the world is seeing the US try to elect some of the most bizarre (from status quo) candidates ever in modern history.

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2 hours ago, CNe7532294 said:

Moving to a different location but slightly on topic, I think the US should stop giving money for foreign defense to countries well off in taking care of itself or are none of our business if we care deeply of our economy as well but I'm sure that'll have heads turning. I'm also sure there are a majority of Americans who are thinking the same thing given that I've asked around among other things and this is why the world is seeing the US try to elect some of the most bizarre (from status quo) candidates ever in modern history.

You know?I agree to some extend, political alliances and even military ones are good, but for example I am all for cutting off the money we get from USA as 'aid', but if such thing happens, its time for the US to stop getting into the regional conflicts here and let various processes happen by themselves. 

Countries shouldn't be funding others constantly.

I am all for military alliance if an all out war breaks out like I said though.

Something that makes me thing about NATO to some extend..

 

 

The immigration policies of the EU especially with the foreign immigrants thrive to eliminate the local cultures and turn into a shit mix by the cultural Marxists.  

Edited June 28, 2016 by CheapTactic

[CNe7532294 171 / 4,777]

The media got spanked today. FTSE is up 3.6%. All losses from Friday are recovered and then some. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

Now the true test will come in September - October depending who replaces Cameron.

 

As for the EU punishing the UK. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

 

Lets not forget if the EU has the next year or 2 to worry. The EU will shit bricks if France leaves. All they need to look at is the past or recently Turkey unfortunately.

[TSARGA 57 / 3,122]

So they actually are creating a superstate:

http://s.tvp.pl/repository/attachment/d/5/1/d51736df11c6ad23221e46543829f1df1467008961919.pdf

 

The document basically says that they are planning to make some kind of EU defence force and that they will oblige all the member states to adopt the Euro.

(ofc J-M Ayrault and F-W Steinmeier are both socialist statists)

Edited July 1, 2016 by TSARGA

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1 hour ago, TSARGA said:

So they actually are creating a superstate:

http://s.tvp.pl/repository/attachment/d/5/1/d51736df11c6ad23221e46543829f1df1467008961919.pdf

 

The document basically says that they are planning to make some kind of EU defence force and that they will oblige all the member states to adopt the Euro.

(ofc J-M Ayrault and F-W Steinmeier are both socialist statists)

Utterly disgusting.

The daily whining of the Remain camp still hasn't ceased wow, guess all they want is to do the vote until their shitty side wins.

Edited July 1, 2016 by CheapTactic