nick027nd 139 / 3,313 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by nick027nd Good evening, With all great things that influence our lives (Reddit, Twitter, and 4Chan to name a few), we have all been allowed the wonderful option of deletion. Many of us take this for granted, including myself. It has come to my attention that when I tried to quote my good friend, @Based_Matt. At precisely 8:18pm on 9/11/2017, I failed to quote his response properly (my mistake, go easy on me), and tried to correct it. To my surprise I found that I couldn't delete my post to quote my good friend properly. Now I feel ashamed as I'm not one to mess this sort of thing up, and that the full effect of my response hasn't been fully received by him. It also makes me look uncultured in the forum community (I'm not, go easy on me), and I wish to correct this. All I ask is that you grant us forum users the ability to delete our posts, for a number of reasons. This is a basic forum right that should be granted to us all! My good friend @Based_Matt made a post about this precisely 463 days 66 weeks 15 months 11112 hours 666720 minutes 40003200 seconds ago, to which was denied, but I see that the responses are flawed. It just doesn't make sense to have to report your own post and wait for it to be removed by someone else, when you can simply just do it yourself in a matter of seconds. Thank you! Link to original thread: Edited September 12, 2017 by nick027nd Something interesting is supposed to go here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Based_Matt 17 / 2,497 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Finally someone gets me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuruia 3,133 / 27,179 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 I've mulled over this matter here and there in the past year since it does seem inherently strange for a form of social media to prevent individuals from removing their own content. I used to disagree with your proposal, but I've found myself more agreeable to it nowadays. Even if there are still doubts over it, it shouldn't hurt to implement it since no real damage or abuse can come out of this. Now, I'd love to consider making this change for you, mi amor, but I'm afraid my magic wand ran out of power a couple of months ago. Good luck on this. I won't take a photo—I'll tell it through words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
Flint 1 / 2,114 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 It only took someone 463 days 66 weeks 15 months 11112 hours 666720 minutes 40003200 seconds to finally get this huge issue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapperdan 2,323 / 0 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by rapperdan so we don't want to delete posts right that is the biggest issue and always has been but how hard is it to simply direct a post into a higher ups trash bin like there already is? we always have hid posts and never delete them even the moderators do this when a post is asked to be deleted but why not give the users the ability to simply click a button and direct the post into where it would go anyways? in cases like otters that we ran into in the past simple fix don't allow pinned or locked posts to be directed into the trash bin. tfw a long ass time ago the dan man was the only one who some what agreed with you on this #DanIsTheRightManInTheClan Edited September 12, 2017 by rapperdan The best server in GFL better then MilkMans TTT server will ever be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements 3
Based_Matt 17 / 2,497 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by Based_Matt 5 minutes ago, rapperdan said: so we don't want to delete posts right that is the biggest issue and always has been but how hard is it to simply direct a post into a higher ups trash bin like there already is? we always have hid posts and never delete them even the moderators do this when a post is asked to be deleted but why not give the users the ability to simply click a button and direct the post into where it would go anyways? in cases like otters that we ran into in the past simple fix don't allow pinned or locked posts to be directed into the trash bin. tfw a long ass time ago the dan man was the only one who some what agreed with you on this #DanIsTheRightManInTheClan im confused, whos side are you on. Edited September 12, 2017 by Based_Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapperdan 2,323 / 0 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by rapperdan 3 minutes ago, Based_Matt said: im confused, whos side are you on. i'm saying you are right also fyi we have never deleted anything rather hid things which I think is causing this big hombo jombo bs and people see delete and we are like reeeeeeeee no delete we can't agree when it's a simple matter of just directing to the higher ups trash bin that no normal user or even admin can even see. Edited September 12, 2017 by rapperdan The best server in GFL better then MilkMans TTT server will ever be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements 3
nick027nd 139 / 3,313 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by nick027nd 10 minutes ago, rapperdan said: so we don't want to delete posts right that is the biggest issue and always has been but how hard is it to simply direct a post into a higher ups trash bin like there already is? we always have hid posts and never delete them even the moderators do this when a post is asked to be deleted but why not give the users the ability to simply click a button and direct the post into where it would go anyways? in cases like otters that we ran into in the past simple fix don't allow pinned or locked posts to be directed into the trash bin. tfw a long ass time ago the dan man was the only one who some what agreed with you on this #DanIsTheRightManInTheClan I partially get what you're saying, but don't fully agree. Honestly, I think it's just easier to allow users the ability to remove a post. If there's something that someone doesn't want on the forums, why have it collect in a trash bin? Edited September 12, 2017 by nick027nd Something interesting is supposed to go here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapperdan 2,323 / 0 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by rapperdan 1 minute ago, nick027nd said: I partially get what you're saying, but don't fully agree. Honestly, I think its just easier to allow users the ability to just remove a post. If there's something that someone doesn't want on the forums, why have it collect in a trash bin? tbh we need to start some where and well in my eyes this would be the first step. what I've noticed over time is gfl is slow af with things and things and ideas concepts always need to be in stepping stones. Edited September 12, 2017 by rapperdan The best server in GFL better then MilkMans TTT server will ever be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements 3
Shuruia 3,133 / 27,179 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, nick027nd said: Honestly, I think it's just easier to allow users the ability to remove a post. If there's something that someone doesn't want on the forums, why have it collect in a trash bin? Source material in case we need dirt on someone. I personally made extensive use of that, and was essentially the main reason why I initially disagreed with your proposal. I just happened to change my mind recently since it would appear that the pros of the notion outweigh the cons. I won't take a photo—I'll tell it through words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
nick027nd 139 / 3,313 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by nick027nd 3 minutes ago, Shuruia said: Source material in case we need dirt on someone. I personally made extensive use of that, and was essentially the main reason why I initially disagreed with your proposal. I just happened to change my mind recently since it would appear that the pros of the notion outweigh the cons. That makes sense, but then the trash bin would be severely cluttered with small things like with what I was trying to fix. Scenario: What if someone posts a picture that someone doesn't want on the forums, if it gets deleted and goes to the trash bin, it is still on the forums for all the higher ups to see. Either way, if we get the ability to delete, I'm fine. Edited September 12, 2017 by nick027nd Something interesting is supposed to go here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuruia 3,133 / 27,179 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, nick027nd said: That makes sense, but then the trash bin would be severely cluttered with small things like with what I was trying to fix. Aye, that was (and remains) a problem. The alternative solution that I was going to implement before I was demoted was to write new guidelines for the CAs on which posts should simply be deleted, and which posts should be hidden/trash binned. It seemed as though CAs felt obliged to hide posts no matter what since deleting posts is taboo. That was just the culture that came to be accepted, so writing a hard rule on what to delete and what to hide seemed fair. Really though, it's just a lot more efficient to let people delete their own posts. I won't take a photo—I'll tell it through words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
pR1zm 6 / 1,543 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by pR1zm As one of the most important people to ever grace this forum I can't agree more with my good friend nick "027" nd. Plenty of times I have thought to have designed a masterpiece of a post, only to shortly find out it is filled with errors. If I had the ability to delete my post it would have saved much heartache. Speaking of deleting things I also feel it was wrong to delete "The Hobo Raceway." It was well within the rules of the server and a good community member was banned for stabbing the abusive admin. On another note is it even possible to be "15 and gay?" Edited September 12, 2017 by pR1zm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapperdan 2,323 / 0 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by rapperdan 2 minutes ago, pR1zm said: As one of the most important people to ever grace this forum I can't agree with my good friend nick "027" nd. Plenty of times I have thought to have designed a masterpiece of a post, only to shortly find out it is filled with errors. If I had the ability to delete my post it would have saved much heartache. Speaking of deleting things I also feel it was wrong to delete "The Hobo Raceway." It was well within the rules of the server and a good community member was banned for stabbing the abusive admin. On another note is it even possible to be "15 and gay?" That stab was amazing. Edited September 12, 2017 by rapperdan The best server in GFL better then MilkMans TTT server will ever be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements 3
Gibs 1 / 1,515 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by Gibs fail RP on the admins part. Edited September 12, 2017 by Gibs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick027nd 139 / 3,313 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 Edited September 12, 2017 by nick027nd 3 minutes ago, pR1zm said: As one of the most important people to ever grace this forum I can't agree more with my good friend nick "027" nd. Plenty of times I have thought to have designed a masterpiece of a post, only to shortly find out it is filled with errors. If I had the ability to delete my post it would have saved much heartache. Speaking of deleting things I also feel it was wrong to delete "The Hobo Raceway." It was well within the rules of the server and a good community member was banned for stabbing the abusive admin. On another note is it even possible to be "15 and gay?" Thank you, friend. I agree 100%, the deletion of Hobo Raceway is something that none of us will forget, and as a former manager of that server, I can confirm it was well indeed within the rules. Edited September 12, 2017 by nick027nd Something interesting is supposed to go here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chormee 2,973 / 29,227 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 If staff wants to do more unnecessary work then they need to, then they can feel free to. Not like they'll listen to user complaints anyway... My Steam Profile (from SteamDB) Worth: $943 ($530 with sales) Games owned: 174 Games played: 112 (64%) Hours on record: 5,797.5h Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomasdavid097 533 / 8,791 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 I don't think it's a good idea for users being allowed to delete own posts, maybe hide them (I'm sure this was also done on our old forum?) deleting posts makes it harder for higher ups and stuff to view logs if the user did anything wrong, making our proof hard/pointless. I would agree with away for people to hide it but that's about it I'm the cs:s Division Leader feel free to ask for help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshy 4,318 / 43,223 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 I recall the frustrations of looking into deleted posts. I don't agree with deleting, but I like the idea of hiding or moving it to an archive forum hidden from the greater community. I think clutter is an acceptable and manageable trade-off, and it's worth offering forum members tools available at other communities and social media sites in order to be competitive. It baffles me that the staff look so much into hardware and programming, and it's great to maintain and improve the back-end, but show something for it if you can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuruia 3,133 / 27,179 Report Post Posted September 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Thomasdavid097 said: I don't think it's a good idea for users being allowed to delete own posts, maybe hide them Yes, this could work just as well. To our average forum user, hiding posts is essentially the same as deleting them anyway. I won't take a photo—I'll tell it through words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements