Some Core Changes

[Violator 2,242 / 20,845]

Time to get the ice cream and popcorn.

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8 hours ago, CrusTi said:

I like what's "happening" but as a Former CA I have seen a trend now and in the past of "All Thread but no Action". I have my doubts and I will keep them. Sure we are making the effort of change but will these changes live like said and will we get what we were told or are we going to get a downgraded minimalist action, aka lazyness. 

 

8 hours ago, CrusTi said:

I should also add. I still have connections with the higher ups. TBH changing the CA Rank to Council and giving different roles isn't going to solve GFLs Problems. The problem are the CAs. They seem to be lazy in my eyes and focus too much on the easy things like Threads, Events and such. Lots of little effort project that make it seem like the CA team does stuff. Honestly you should not be praising that changes that are going to happen for the CA Team, you should be concerned that the higher ups don't want to admit that CA team has gone down hill a lot since the Revamp in March, or in tldr terms, the CA team is crap right now. Unmotivated as a whole, not individually, lazy and too focused on easy stuff to boost ego in the community. 

 

With that said. I can see why a lot of higher ups have been resigning recently, 5-ish since I resigned, and other who are preparing to. Probably not because of what I have said but the direction of GFL and their personal interest. 

 

@Eli @Syntax @Runda @TheLastBee @BillyMartin @Kite9867 @Benroy @Gekkota @Xy_ @JoelSmith @King_Wailord @John_Ariana_Man @Joshy @Bae

(To all of you who have COMMENTED on this post so far:)

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I get the your are trying to support every staff post to boost your ego or whatever reason otherwise, but I can't support this when seeing how things have been since I left and my experience as a CA. We have had a lot of good staff leave in the last 2 months (5) and that says something, including myself. ( @denros @Snoopy @HackingPotato @Rcool64 and @CrusTi ) I bet you that none of these retired staff are extremely liked by the majority of the community. I have seen too many people go for favorites on staff rather then work ethic. The former staff listed above had good  work ethic and for the most part, went through with promises. And I don't care if I break your safe space bubble but your favorites are not always the best. Some of the best staff GFL has ever had we're people that were not widely know in the community and didn't make lots of threads for likes. Do you know why, well they were the ones going forward with threads and making GFL what is is/was. And the truth is we don't have those kind of people anymore. We are slowing being left with LOTS OF THREADS and PROMISES but NO ACTIONS. Open you eyes people, sad truth is....gfl is dieing and the staff are desperate.

+1. Everything you said was a large part in the reason I had left the team. I had seen that people were afraid of countering ideas and having a worth while debate in fear of arguing. Then, there was the whole problem of certain individuals getting promoted to staff for virtually no reason other than favoritism (i.e. @Skittlez). As I can see, this is still a problem. On top of that, other staff that were generally liked by the community, but were not doing anything for months, stayed in power. When they were finally dethroned, the community went into an outrage. I believe this could have been prevented by dealing with the problem before it became an epidemic.  Anytime a CA wanted to do something, it took way longer to get done since it usually had to be done by a BoD. Eventually, CAs got the power to do some things after I fought for them, but it is still a problem to my understanding. Community members who point out any flaw in GFL are immediately censored or get the "suicide by two shots in the back of the head" treatment (i.e. @Joshy).

 

I generally disagree with some of these core changes. For example, the phrase "The team itself could be revamped" should be "The team itself NEEDS to be revamped" because people have been saying it NEEDS to be revamped for months and little to no action has been done with it other than making a few posts here and there. 

 

Later, after I resigned, I created a spreadsheet of every TS3 permission that needed to be fixed and, as far as I know, practically none of it was implemented. Even if it was, it took at least a month and a half to do anything with it since any time @SashaGrey tried bringing it up, people would ignore it. Also, not being on the computer for four days because you are helping someone move is demote worthy, but not doing work for months like some CAs do is perfectly acceptable. But do not worry, all they have to do is make at least 10 posts a day so it makes it look like they are doing something with their position.

 

If I had to make an assumption as to why the people who stepped down recently resigned, it would be that they are sick of GFL and its sad excuse of a community/staff team.

 

Sometimes, I feel like asking for the Trusted rank back so I can help with decisions up there again (since that is all I am good for at this point other than making badges), but I am afraid of what I would see and after this post, they probably would want my opinion anyways.

 

I cannot wait for the higher ups to go into full damage control and censor our messages since they like to do that.

[kneegerrlover123 389 / 8,946]

8 hours ago, CrusTi said:

I should also add. I still have connections with the higher ups. TBH changing the CA Rank to Council and giving different roles isn't going to solve GFLs Problems. The problem are the CAs. They seem to be lazy in my eyes and focus too much on the easy things like Threads, Events and such. Lots of little effort project that make it seem like the CA team does stuff. Honestly you should not be praising that changes that are going to happen for the CA Team, you should be concerned that the higher ups don't want to admit that CA team has gone down hill a lot since the Revamp in March, or in tldr terms, the CA team is crap right now. Unmotivated as a whole, not individually, lazy and too focused on easy stuff to boost ego in the community. 

 

With that said. I can see why a lot of higher ups have been resigning recently, 5-ish since I resigned, and other who are preparing to. Probably not because of what I have said but the direction of GFL and their personal interest. 

 

@Eli @Syntax @Runda @TheLastBee @BillyMartin @Kite9867 @Benroy @Gekkota @Xy_ @JoelSmith @King_Wailord @John_Ariana_Man @Joshy @Bae

(To all of you who have COMMENTED on this post so far:)

///////////PLEASE READ////////////

 

I get the your are trying to support every staff post to boost your ego or whatever reason otherwise, but I can't support this when seeing how things have been since I left and my experience as a CA. We have had a lot of good staff leave in the last 2 months (5) and that says something, including myself. ( @denros @Snoopy @HackingPotato @Rcool64 and @CrusTi ) I bet you that none of these retired staff are extremely liked by the majority of the community. I have seen too many people go for favorites on staff rather then work ethic. The former staff listed above had good  work ethic and for the most part, went through with promises. And I don't care if I break your safe space bubble but your favorites are not always the best. Some of the best staff GFL has ever had we're people that were not widely know in the community and didn't make lots of threads for likes. Do you know why, well they were the ones going forward with threads and making GFL what is is/was. And the truth is we don't have those kind of people anymore. We are slowing being left with LOTS OF THREADS and PROMISES but NO ACTIONS. Open you eyes people, sad truth is....gfl is dieing and the staff are desperate.

 

Please do not take the following as offensive content as I have NOT taken any offense from the reply above, same thing applies for those that I will mention, I will attempt to speak the truth and try to only say stuff I'm certain is the absolute truth, thanks.

I have done these types of posts before, and I won't hesitate to do them now nor in the future, they're for the sake of GFL and I do not care if I lose my positions after this. This is constructive criticism (kinda).

 

Hey CrusTi,

I have to clear something up, I do not post on every single announcement so I can "boost my ego", I only post on those that mention specific people I'm interested in, or subjects I'm interested in knowing, most of these "specific people" are either people who have helped me reach the position I'm in after redeeming myself worthy and are ready to help others, or are simply interesting and I would like to get to know them, some of these people (I will not tag/mention) are SwegBuster, Darkling, and Dan. I can also mention others such as Dano, Snoopy, and Shuruia.
Now these are the people that helped me rise, and are willing to help anyone that wants to if they are worthy, so please do not jump into conclusions, now into the main part, do not consider anything of the below offensive.

You're literally contradicting yourself. They all have cons and pros, but most of them have surely done something remarkable that gave them this "honor" to be tagged today in your reply, but trust me, they all have a cons. Starting with denros, he's a great guy yeah, he helped me A LOT in TTT and has improved GFL remarkably, however, the dude has a pretty toxic attitude, I've seen him before, he starts fights and doesn't have the will to end them, I've supported him coming back simply because I didn't know of him and his attitude so much, but I've seen him go off at people continuously without stopping. Then there's Snoopy, now this dude is just something else, he helped me so much throughout his reign, and has shown me the right path on how to attempt to obtain the management of ZM, though the server got deleted...anyhow, he's a great guy and I didn't expect him to resign, I can't think of any cons, sometimes shitposts but it's always quality shitposts so yeah. And...there's Hacking. I just don't know where to start, she's been extremely nice lately and pretty active, but I can't just delete her history, I have been admin for what now? 3 months++? I have literally only seen her on like 3-4 times on TS, and on forums every time she posts something it's either a shitpost or something toxic, I know I'm going to start shit by saying this but, I can't believe you called her "good staff", she took away Dan's position and now 1v1's dying, half or more of the CS:GO division is dead, and to top it off once given a command to complete the "Trello" task to reform the division, she didn't do anything, literally. Rcool's a cool dude nothing more, I didn't think of how important he was until I became a SA and a MA, this guy did a lot of work back in the day that GFL's based on now, but he's inactive, and he knows it, can't think of any cons other than that. And then there's you, no cons at all, great guy, just don't say this bullshit again.

Compare these 5 people that are tagged in your post to some others that helped GFL rise such as...oh wait never mind they're all forgotten.

I'm one of the few people in GFL that actually give credit to staff that did so much work yet haven't gotten noticed, I actually said that twice in a conversation with Dan, and I repeated it over and over when talking to GFL members, I have always considered GFL as an "Already built house, people that live in it get the credit, people that built it don't get noticed.", kinda the perfect example to me. Also, I have always told Roy that GFL is dieing, and he did listen, he did make promeses, he did write threads, but nothing was done. What he doesn't understand is that while moving forward is a great thing, the more you move forward the more it weighs you down, we're killing major divisions so we can open new servers and mini divisions.

TL;DR: What you said is right, partially. Also...we're killing ourselves, I've said it before and won't repeat it again, GFL is cannibalizing itself. 
PS: Roy stop posting this "Future of GFL" types of threads nobody cares, post achievements.

PS2: I know what I'm doing, and I know what I said and I will protect my POV from any opposition to come.

[syrus 1,000 / 15,155]

@Shuruia Yea, go play Overwatch. You did nothing you self centered British coon. hehehxxdxd rawr

Edited November 17, 2017 by Syrus

[Pyros 1,796 / 30,750]

6 hours ago, Violator said:

Time to get the ice cream and popcorn.

enjoying it? share some with me please

[myPHART 281 / 5,459]

A lot of arguing over self-merit when we should just shut it and work together as a community to rebuild.

 

 

[Sleazoid 201 / 4,175]

Man, I think you guys need to calm down on the hostility. I don't know why any of you feel the need to insult each other and throw each other under the bus. If anything is going to harm the community its going to be the people who are new to the community seeing you guys who have been in it for a long time acting like this.

 

Every one of you who are acting like 12 year old kids who can't get past their disagreements and have to resort to insults should be ashamed of yourselves.

[annoying furry 6,300 / 63,950]

Let's stay on topic and quit arguing like children.

 

Thanks,

[Kebbrokk 1 / 1,024]

My opinion, just back and watch 

[John Jeez Man 556 / 12,201]

How did it go from "congratz darkling" to people bashing each other? 

[Sleazoid 201 / 4,175]

It has nothing to do with GFL. It’s because you guys can’t act your age. This is the last thing I’ll have to say about it. I think if you guys have a problem discuss it in a relevant thread or pm’s. 

 

You’re making yourselves look childish. Grow up.

[kneegerrlover123 389 / 8,946]

@CrusTi This is just one example of um...people you forgot to mention down. Compared to these 5 people including you, you're literally nothing lol. (No offence, they deserve to be "remembered")

[Bredcrumbs 35 / 2,048]

It's nice to see people talking so actively about the core changes               Kappa 

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10 hours ago, John_Ariana_Man said:

How did it go from "congratz darkling" to people bashing each other? 

Crusti is what happened

[Joshy 4,364 / 44,927]

It's okay.  People need to get things off of their shoulders.

 

I personally wouldn't measure who's better than who or who has done more than others.  Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, and they contribute to the community in different ways.  There are corners of the community we need to cover and everything in between.  It's a common question in our academic and professional careers, and the same applies here: "Is it better to specialize, or to be a jack of all trades?"  They're going to have a few people who look super by one measure and absolutely horrible by others, and you'll also have people who will look decent by many measures, but never the best at any one or two.  It is often inefficient to have a team of individuals covering one corner alone; conversely: You'll never have anything great if nobody is the best at anything, and so organizations often aim to have a balance of both and hope the superposition of the two groups is greater than the direct approach of having only one or the other.

 

Everyone has their value here, and each has made their contribution.  We can look at them by one measure or measure them by all, but the right way to do this is look at the big picture and see how they fill that remaining puzzle piece.

[Joshy 4,364 / 44,927]

This behavior is common in big communities.  It's much easier to get 10 people to agree on something compared to 100+ people.  To be clear about my point: This isn't a problem because we're in GFL, but because GFL is a larger community.

 

I personally think some of the changes have a sensible approach such as increasing the size of our leadership.  I think some of the problems are misunderstood such as communication.  If my computer isn't turning on because the systemboard is damaged, then I'm not going to solve anything by replacing the AC adapter over and over again, and so I believe GFL can get a little bit stuck investing into the wrong remedies.

Edited December 10, 2017 by Joshy
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[Alucard33rd 1,175 / 15,145]

On 11/18/2017 at 1:45 AM, Syntax said:

@CrusTi This is just one example of um...people you forgot to mention down. Compared to these 5 people including you, you're literally nothing lol. (No offence, they deserve to be "remembered")

I know I'm late but what you said just proves my point even more, not even I can remember all of the great staff that we use to have that are no longer around.