Worgee 812 / 13,264 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 Don't blame the salesman dude. Have you ever met a psycopath? They are often handsome or good with words and doesn't show signs of mental issues. There is 99% chance that the salesman (and many others) had no clue that the guy had mental issues. If you want to blame someone you should blame the people of the system. Nerd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
Lone Sniper Skeleton 219 / 5,103 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 Edited February 15, 2018 by Lone Sniper Skeleton - Edit Reason: Moved words around to make easier to understand. 51 minutes ago, Worgee said: Don't blame the salesman dude. Have you ever met a psycopath? They are often handsome or good with words and doesn't show signs of mental issues. There is 99% chance that the salesman (and many others) had no clue that the guy had mental issues. If you want to blame someone you should blame the people of the system. As found in the news report he was on the FBI's radar, because of this, the salesman should not have sold him the gun. People who give out licences to carry have access to this info for a reason, and if put on the radar, his license should have been removed so the guns salesman couldn't have legally sold it to him. Edited February 15, 2018 by Lone Sniper Skeleton Moved words around to make easier to understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worgee 812 / 13,264 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 So he shouldn't have the license in the first place which the government didn't take away from him, kewl. Nerd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
im not inactive you are 888 / 16,340 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 Honestly, the sole reason that guy walked in with an AR15 is because there is no security at that damn school. The fences are low as fuck so literally anyone that's able to (fucking high school kids for fucks sake), can jump it and be in or out of the school. I'm a US citizen who lived abroad his whole life, I speak both english and spanish fluently, and I can say the school I went to, even though we had nothing to worry about with guns and such, there was a heavy amount of security with everything. Cameras around every corner and in the middle of hallways, and security guards with shotguns. Now don't get me wrong, not every security guard would put their lives out toward saving the kids even with shotguns, but 10 guys with shotguns > 1 kid with an AR15, this ain't Call of Duty, where shotguns have a 2 ft range before they stop being deadly, they shoot for at least 200 feet. Other than that, stricter gun laws aren't the answer. Even though this time the gun was legal, it's just as easy to go onto Tor and buy an AK47 or whatever and have it delivered to your house. Also found the last part of this funny "not trying to blame the family, but should a depressed 19 year old really have a gun?" Well, since he's adopted, they really can't do shit about his personal belongings and whatever memories he had with them, like if it was the gun he would go hunting with his dad or whatever. https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/14/us/nikolas-cruz-florida-shooting-suspect/index.html Strict gun laws won't help the situation, it'll make it harder. My condolences to those families who lost people, but that is my opinion on gun laws and the school shooting situation. Former Gmod Prop Hunt Admin Former Media Team Team Leader Former Media Team GFX Member Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Fx_- 666 / 11,186 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Lone Sniper Skeleton said: Under 18 U.S.C. § 922(d), it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.” -Via the NCSL. Under this the man who distributed the gun to him should either be put under arrest or lose his license to sell guns. And "make them harder to get" just of curiosity did you even read the first line of my previous comment, and in case you didn't here you go. And trust me by no means am I trying to defend the shooter, but the problem that started all of this is the salesman not properly doing a background check. Just because you say its not gonna work doesn't mean shit. We don't know unless we try it out. We've had 18 school shootings since 2018 began there's obviously a problem and more guns isn't gonna help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
im not inactive you are 888 / 16,340 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 Former Gmod Prop Hunt Admin Former Media Team Team Leader Former Media Team GFX Member Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Fx_- 666 / 11,186 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 The GOP is literally taking no steps to prevent shit like this from happening. Orange fuck face literally signed a bill making it easier for the mentally ill to get guns. I GUESS WE GOTTA GET RID OF THE POOR RIGHT!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Fx_- 666 / 11,186 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheSadBandit said: and? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
im not inactive you are 888 / 16,340 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, -_Fx_- said: The GOP is literally taking no steps to prevent shit like this from happening. Orange fuck face literally signed a bill making it easier for the mentally ill to get guns. I GUESS WE GOTTA GET RID OF THE POOR RIGHT!? But you don't see any rightists shooting up schools? PS: sorry all my friends are mixed either conservative or liberal and i like fucking with the liberal ones. Former Gmod Prop Hunt Admin Former Media Team Team Leader Former Media Team GFX Member Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
queue 917 / 10,419 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 Edited February 15, 2018 by queue https://phys.org/news/2014-01-restrictive-concealed-weapons-laws-gun-related.html http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/figure/10.1080/13504851.2013.854294?scroll=top&needAccess=true "Communism is great guys! It is totally better than those nazi guys!" Edited February 15, 2018 by queue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
im not inactive you are 888 / 16,340 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, -_Fx_- said: and? huh? my point exactly, those fighting for stricter gun rights are the ones that are going and shooting up schools, and clubs, and people in general. It's not the gun at fault for killing people, it's the person behind the gun. Former Gmod Prop Hunt Admin Former Media Team Team Leader Former Media Team GFX Member Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Fx_- 666 / 11,186 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheSadBandit said: huh? my point exactly, those fighting for stricter gun rights are the ones that are going and shooting up schools, and clubs, and people in general. It's not the gun at fault for killing people, it's the person behind the gun. I don't think a Psychopaths political views matter when they've killed tons of innocent people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Fx_- 666 / 11,186 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, TheSadBandit said: But you don't see any rightists shooting up schools? PS: sorry all my friends are mixed either conservative or liberal and i like fucking with the liberal ones. Yeah but a right winger was responsible for the Vegas shooting Killing 58 and wounding 500. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK_Ghosty 252 / 5,966 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 America has the most mass shootings out all of the 1st world countries If you think America doesn't need better gun laws then you're part of the issue <THIS USER HAD AN ANNOYING SIGNATURE, IT'S NOW IN A SPOILER> R.I.P Gmod ZS 2014-2018 GMOD ZS OG World record? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Fx_- 666 / 11,186 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, JK_Ghosty said: America has the most mass shootings out all of the 1st world countries If you think America doesn't need better gun laws then you're part of the issue Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
im not inactive you are 888 / 16,340 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 Edited February 15, 2018 by TheSadBandit 32 minutes ago, -_Fx_- said: I don't think a Psychopaths political views matter when they've killed tons of innocent people. Ok so Sunni Islam is just a religion, even though the religion literally says kill anyone who isn't Sunni, hence why ISIS kills everyone who isn't Sunni muslim. 29 minutes ago, -_Fx_- said: Yeah but a right winger was responsible for the Vegas shooting Killing 58 and wounding 500. There's always that odd one in the party. But lets pull up the list of the most recent mass shootings, and their political affiliation. Ft.Hood shooter Nidal Hasan - Democrat, and muslim(2009) Adam Lanza - Liberal, hated Christians (2012) Columbine High School freaks - too young to vote but came from very liberal families (it was 4 different fucking shootings) Virginia Tech shooter, Seung-Hui Cho - liberal freak (2014) Virginia Tech decapitater - liberal (2009) Colorado Theater shooter James Holmes - liberal (2012) I love googling this shit lmao. But why forget about: Lee Harvy Oswald (JFK) - Marxist (hard core lefty) John Hinkley (Reagan) - Democrat John Wilkes Booth (Lincoln) - Democrat Sir Han Sir Han (RFK) - Liberal Black panther party - leftist based organization KKK- was spawn from democrats Eradication of Jews 1940's (holocaust) - Hitler a member of the National Socialist Workers Party aka a hardcore leftist. Planned parenthood - a leftist organization, created for the sole purpose to eradicate blacks, (do some research on Margaret Sanger) Slavery - Democrats were proponents. (In case you want to say that NPR is biased toward right, someone already did a review about it. here) Edited February 15, 2018 by TheSadBandit Former Gmod Prop Hunt Admin Former Media Team Team Leader Former Media Team GFX Member Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeS 90 / 2,896 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, JK_Ghosty said: America has the most mass shootings out all of the 1st world countries If you think America doesn't need better gun laws then you're part of the issue we need better care for those that are mentally ill. Guns dont kill people. people do. When someone gets a DUI the driver is blamed not the vehicle when a bomb goes off and kills people the bomber is blamed not the bomb. so why is the gun? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Fx_- 666 / 11,186 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheSadBandit said: Ok so Sunni Islam is just a religion, even though the religion literally says kill anyone who isn't Sunni, hence why ISIS kills everyone who isn't Sunni muslim. There's always that odd one in the party. But lets pull up the list of the most recent mass shootings, and their political affiliation. Ft.Hood shooter Nidal Hasan - Democrat, and muslim(2009) Adam Lanza - Liberal, hated Christians (2012) Columbine High School freaks - too young to vote but came from very liberal families (it was 4 different fucking shootings) Virginia Tech shooter, Seung-Hui Cho - liberal freak (2014) Virginia Tech decapitater - liberal (2009) Colorado Theater shooter James Holmes - liberal (2012) I love googling this shit lmao. But why forget about: Lee Harvy Oswald (JFK) - Marxist (hard core lefty) John Hinkley (Reagan) - Democrat John Wilkes Booth (Lincoln) - Democrat Sir Han Sir Han (RFK) - Liberal Black panther party - leftist based organization KKK- was spawn from democrats Eradication of Jews 1940's (holocaust) - Hitler a member of the National Socialist Workers Party aka a hardcore leftist. Planned parenthood - a leftist organization, created for the sole purpose to eradicate blacks, (do some research on Margaret Sanger) Slavery - Democrats were proponents. And again THESE PEOPLE ARE FUCKING PSYCHOPATHS WHOSE POLITICAL VIEWS DON'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING PSYCHOPATHS can't you get that through your thick skull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK_Ghosty 252 / 5,966 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, BlakeS said: we need better care for those that are mentally ill. Guns dont kill people. people do. When someone gets a DUI the driver is blamed not the vehicle when a bomb goes off and kills people the bomber is blamed not the bomb. so why is the gun? I'm not blaming the gun I'm blaming gun laws. You shouldn't be able to walk into a gunshop and walk out with an ar-15 the same day, That's not right <THIS USER HAD AN ANNOYING SIGNATURE, IT'S NOW IN A SPOILER> R.I.P Gmod ZS 2014-2018 GMOD ZS OG World record? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Fx_- 666 / 11,186 Report Post Posted February 15, 2018 I don't understand why we are even having this kind of discussion on a thread about innocent children who lost their lives for no reason just yesterday. I'm done with this conversation. I'm fucking disgusted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...