Rena 2,779 / 33,642 Report Post Posted September 5, 2019 Edited September 7, 2019 by Korowa It's been a long time now since the Star Wars RP server was shut down. Back then, a lot of our servers struggled and I understand the focus on those servers, but GFL has come a long way and it's doing much better now, as most divisions are steady. So, with resources that GFL has currently, I think it'd be worth giving the Star Wars ImperialRP server another opportunity. There's a broad variety of things that can help the server now and I'm sure it can do well with good care. "Don't you think the server will just fail again?" While this possibility should always be kept in mind, there are a few reasons to think it won't fail and why it failed in the past, some of them being: One of the reasons the server failed before was because of the fact the server was practically unable to gain new players and I believe that was due to the location of the server previously. Even when the server had 30+ players on, we did not manage to gain many or if any new players at all and most of these 30 players were friends of existing players or people from GFL. This really crippled the success of the server and eventually led to its downfall. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Learning from past mistakes is a huge reason as to why this server will most likely not fail again. One of the past mistakes was having the server feel more serious and not allowing players to have their own freedom to do what they please. We want to give players the freedom to do more things without getting punished for having some fun with friends and stuff, but still enforce punishments for actions that may ruin everyone else’s experience such as punishing for extreme toxicity and Mass RDM (3+ kills). __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Another past mistake was the fact that there was nothing to do on the server really without events. This is why things for officers to do to keep players engaged was intended to be implemented and an increase of Gamesters from various timezones to keep events going at any time when available. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Keeping the server optimised and playable for the players is a huge reason why this server would thrive over many others. A lot of server owners out there do not care about the performance of their server and essentially their player base, which leads to many being unable to play and their framerates being extremely low. To ensure the server is optimised, we would need to make sure that logs are kept to a minimum and that there are a respectable amount of props on the map and not an insane amount that would kill computers. Another thing that could be taken in to optimise the server even more is ensuring that the map being used is also optimised very well this could be done by placing a limit to the render distance or simply making it so the player does not render what they cannot see. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Another issue was having many battalions but not enough people, which lead to unused and inactive battalions. There has to be a few but not too many. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Suggestions: There should only be necessary battalions, at the start, with at least one extra battalion and then add more as times goes. Principal battalions should be: Naval, Chimaera, SHOCK, Medical, and 501st. The extra battalion should probably be Scouts as a start and then battalion slots open up as these start getting filled. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ In the beginning, rankings could have a limit to them the higher they are. For example: 1 Colonel 1 LTCOL 1 Major 2 Captains 2 Lieutenants (1 1LT and 1 2LT) Below Lieutenant, there could be no limit of Sergeants and Troopers. As time goes on and with more population, Officer+ slots can slowly open up. However, these should not be immediate! For Commander, there should be a test and application process to see if the applicant has what it takes to be a commander. For the other ranks, Commanders can decide if there can be applications or if they want them to go through all ranks process to test their skills. As for ranking up, a rank up cooldown would also be good. For Troopers - 1 day cooldown from PVT to CPL. For Sergeants - 2 day cooldown from SGT to MSGT. From MSGT to SGM - 3 day cooldown. From SGM to 2LT - 1 week cooldown. For Officer+ - whenever slots are open, there should be a minimum of 2 weeks before promoting officers. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Each battalion should have squads. In the beginning, make 1 squad per Captain, which will help keep people entertained, learn new things and do a lot more. These squads can be defense squads, attacks squads, frontline squads, backline squads, vehicles squad, etc. They can depend on what each battalion does. When there's a good population on the server, more squads can be created but the maximum should be 4 squads. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Discord was our main source of communication on the server. Each battalion deserves their own section to update things or chat with only their battalion. The Discord was always a bit outdated and incomplete, so the Discord should be kept updated, organised, and clean. Edited September 7, 2019 by Korowa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
Rick 1,651 / 17,972 Report Post Posted September 5, 2019 I fully support this and would be willing to put in the effort to get the server going again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
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VilhjalmrF 2,099 / 30,689 Report Post Posted September 5, 2019 ^^ Average HL2RP Enjoyer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
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RVFK 1,037 / 15,970 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 i give it a month Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben 2,378 / 31,861 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 I'm in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rena 2,779 / 33,642 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 36 minutes ago, RVFK said: i give it a month Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
TheJitFace 699 / 18,162 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 Not going to call anyone out or cause controversy with what I have to say. This is just the way I saw it. Rick did a great job as manager. The reason why I stopped playing the server was due to certain admins, no promotions, and having to reset your rank after switching battalions. The last event I did was a shit show, I got killed due to a admin spawning so many enemies non stop and the map was huge and no one would TP me back. No idea where to go or what to do. I just waited out the rest and it ended like 10 minutes later. I was doing a good job leading the group and was crushing enemies before, but at the end, no promotion. Nothing at all. This was the end for me, mainly certain admins ruined the server for me. I support a new server being made, but I just hope proper admins are picked this time. jitticus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakoni 729 / 12,354 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 Edited September 6, 2019 by Harakoni In my time playing on the server, far too much was spent idling due to lack of events, and all i really did was walk around the Star Destroyer/Clone Cruiser (Sorry SW:CW nerds, i'm not that well versed). Even if more events were to be thrown in to make things more active, my experience was basically a total of 7 hours alone in the spaceship. So I would recommend setting up activities to do inside the star destroyer. These could include; - A firing range, a simple line with targets here and there would do so people new to the server can practice firing as well as more veteran players just practice rangefinding and weapon spread/ballistics (assuming you're using a realistic weapon pack) or just to shoot dummy targets in various poses (Droids in perhaps running, stationary, idle and action poses) - A PvP arena for test fighting more alive and kicking targets. - An obstacle course, useful for passing the time or trying to out-compete server randoms/friends, or some minigames like parkour, bunnyhopping if able to on the server (doubt), and wallclimbing with the grappling hook which was on the server before. (also have a gripe with this in the "recruit training" as it was kinda annoying and useless, maybe for more advanced units) - Possibly be spawn limited due to performance/spam issues, but have people able to casually fly aircraft/drive vehicles in some of the bays in the ship. Aside from this, another issue, or an issue i felt personally was the recruit training. Which was far to over-complex and had needless/never used formations / attack options. It should be kept to squad leader, movement, and shooting as to what is taught. Not a 30 minute run down on how to escort 2 different types of people, different types of shooting modes based on squad leaders orders etc - this comes from someone who likes that kind of thing.. if it's useful. Edited September 6, 2019 by Harakoni v-1.mp4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rena 2,779 / 33,642 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, TheJitFace said: and having to reset your rank after switching battalions. If you're joining a new one, then it'd make sense to start over. Unless this isn't what you meant. If not, feel free to explain. 33 minutes ago, TheJitFace said: The last event I did was a shit show, I got killed due to a admin spawning so many enemies non stop and the map was huge and no one would TP me back. No idea where to go or what to do. I just waited out the rest and it ended like 10 minutes later. I was doing a good job leading the group and was crushing enemies before, but at the end, no promotion. Yeah, I get you. Things could've gone better, and I certainly agree with a lot that you're saying. Though if there is a new server, I hope that the bias and toxicity between players and admins does not come back because it killed my fun getting yelled at by everyone during events and everyone just being an ass to each other. 16 minutes ago, Harakoni said: In my time playing on the server, far too much was spent idling due to lack of events, and all i really did was walk around the Star Destroyer/Clone Cruiser (Sorry SW:CW nerds, i'm not that well versed). Even if more events were to be thrown in to make things more active, my experience was basically a total of 7 hours alone in the spaceship. So I would recommend setting up activities to do inside the star destroyer. Idling was never an issue to me but after spending several weeks into playing nothing but Star Wars RP, I can definitly agree that the server needed a LOT more activity. Be it SIMs, fun PTs, or map courses like you said. Hopefully all suggestions posted in this thread will be taken into consideration if SWRP ever gets another chance. 18 minutes ago, Harakoni said: Aside from this, another issue, or an issue i felt personally was the recruit training. Which was far to over-complex and had needless/never used formations / attack options. It should be kept to squad leader, movement, and shooting as to what is taught. Not a 30 minute run down on how to escort 2 different types of people, different types of shooting modes based on squad leaders orders etc - this comes from someone who likes that kind of thing.. if it's useful. The recruit training can be minimised and simplified, 100% agree. People who go over it in too much depth *cough* @Rick *cough* sometimes makes it even more confusing and/or people end up forgetting what was previously explained in the training. Training should be done at least in 10 minutes or less and in a fun way for everyone to understand. Still have to go over everything, but just make faster and more fun. 21 minutes ago, Harakoni said: - Possibly be spawn limited due to performance/spam issues, but have people able to casually fly aircraft/drive vehicles in some of the bays in the ship. This can be done. Like patrol ships and other vehicles for people to have fun/train/practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
Rick 1,651 / 17,972 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 Thing is though? Clone Wars or Imperial? Clone Wars has a lot more options imo. I'd much rather do that + I can use this map which I FUCKING LOVE https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=890036049 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
Rena 2,779 / 33,642 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 I personally prefer Imperial. Though this could be a poll done in the future or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
QueenViolet 17 / 878 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 starting a star wars rp server of anything is going to be VERY to make popular due the top servers contently having 40+ people and this is on eu and us servers. So im not sure it would work out. But i would play on it for sure to help out wherever im needed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger 155 / 4,994 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 Edited September 6, 2019 by Trigger - Edit Reason: Just wanted to add a little sumthin' I have never personally "role-played" before, but would this server cater to Serious Role-Players or Laid back Role-Players? If you get what I'm saying. Clone Wars Era > Imperial Era Edited September 6, 2019 by Trigger Just wanted to add a little sumthin' ֍ Trigger ֍ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
QueenViolet 17 / 878 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Trigger said: I have never personally "role-played" before, but would this server cater to Serious Role-Players. or Laid back Role-Players? If you get what I'm saying. Clone Wars Era > Imperial Era seeing as most if not all star wars rp server are serious rp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0st 106 / 2,791 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 I would love a gfl star wars server, either that or military RP. I fully support this idea and would come on every now and then and possibly become staff. Hopefully this works out and we will have a stable server! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Jeez Man 556 / 12,201 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 Edited September 6, 2019 by John Jeez Man i would come back for this. (not that anyone wants me back or anything but just saying) Edited September 6, 2019 by John Jeez Man Server Manager of Squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 1,249 / 17,852 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 I'd love helping out with mapping. I am not in a state to promise any Lua work at the moment. Wanna know what I am up to? Take a look at my personal Trello board or my cards on the Development Trello board! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbs 365 / 8,846 Report Post Posted September 6, 2019 played last starwars rp knew nothing of starwars still had a great time so im down Former Manager On Hide and Seek Former Admin on prop hunt Former trail admin on breach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...