lobsterpaw 174 / 3,327 Report Post Posted May 2, 2022 i think that the !roles thread should have a reply that shows the models of all roles which receive special models. this will help new/returning players identify those roles, and prevent them from seeing, for example, an undead, and killing them. thank you piss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Cat 160 / 4,504 Report Post Posted May 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, lobsterpaw said: i think that the !roles thread should have a reply that shows the models of all roles which receive special models. this will help new/returning players identify those roles, and prevent them from seeing, for example, an undead, and killing them. thank you not super necessary imo, like if they have fists they bad, if deagle then good. maybe this could be added to rolesextra (or we could just say, "hl2 zombie and fast zombie" as descriptions of the models.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysin_ 540 / 13,162 Report Post Posted May 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Neon Cat said: not super necessary imo, like if they have fists they bad, if deagle then good. maybe this could be added to rolesextra (or we could just say, "hl2 zombie and fast zombie" as descriptions of the models.) disagree, very necessary, people see zombie like models and gop "DIE DIE DIE" sometimes Made by @Clavers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangost 49 / 1,185 Report Post Posted May 3, 2022 +1 i dont really see how this would hurt and it would probably take like 5 minutes to just put a png of the model in the thing professional necromancer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstaPasta 3 / 44 Report Post Posted May 3, 2022 I mean i think knowing the fact that there are good zombies(undead) when your new is a reason to need to know how to differentiate between roles like those so you dont accidently rdm the undead La Pasta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsterpaw 174 / 3,327 Report Post Posted May 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Neon Cat said: not super necessary imo, like if they have fists they bad, if deagle then good. maybe this could be added to rolesextra (or we could just say, "hl2 zombie and fast zombie" as descriptions of the models.) did you miss the part where i said new/returning players? also, not everyone knows what the hl2 zombie/fastzombie look like. there's no cost to adding this, and it would make a very confusing set of roles a little bit less confusing. shinigami/undead gets killed by confused innos frequently enough that this would be a nice little addition. +1 piss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Device 236 / 6,853 Report Post Posted May 3, 2022 Yeah this seems super easy and important +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsterpaw 174 / 3,327 Report Post Posted May 3, 2022 i agree with Anathema Device. +1 piss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord of burgers 67 / 3,332 Report Post Posted May 3, 2022 big agree, maybe even add pics of the models in the message itself if possible, in their corresponding role sections. maybe some players won't think to look at the replies of the thread, but idk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmitric419 45 / 3,084 Report Post Posted May 5, 2022 Edited May 5, 2022 by dmitric419 1+ Seems like a simple thing to do anyway for new players and returning players. Also maybe add the weapon's to the list because its can shows to new players what weapon is kosble because the type of role, like the marker that has the paintball gun. Edited May 5, 2022 by dmitric419 Just a gamer and helpful person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Cat 160 / 4,504 Report Post Posted May 5, 2022 Edited May 5, 2022 by Neon Cat I made my simplified roles post to make a very simple and easy to read list of roles. I think a better idea than this would be adding another command showing all the custom role models, including doom slayer, bulwark, awoken, infected, shinigami, and undead. In my opinion this would work a lot better just due to the amount of different roles with custom models, and the !models (or something) command should be mentioned in !roles and !rolesextra (maybe the motd too) 15 hours ago, dmitric419 said: 1+ Seems like a simple thing to do anyway for new players and returning players. Also maybe add the weapon's to the list because its can shows to new players what weapon is kosble because the type of role, like the marker that has the paintball gun. adding on to my previous suggestion, I think that this could possibly be added and since I want a post made just dedicated to the models, there is no point not including all the custom weapons. EDIT: in fact, I can just make this myself 😛 Edited May 5, 2022 by Neon Cat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsterpaw 174 / 3,327 Report Post Posted May 6, 2022 Edited May 6, 2022 by lobsterpaw 8 hours ago, Neon Cat said: post it's hard enough to get any new player to use !roles already, and frankly nobody uses !rolesextra. nobody is going to want to use another command, and adding every custom weapon onto that will just make it an information overload. obviously it's your prerogative to make whatever post you want, but i don't think your suggestion is mutually exclusive with mine. the main issue is people shooting undead/shinigami because they think they're evil- we don't need to throw the kitchen sink at it. more =/= better edit: +1 Edited May 6, 2022 by lobsterpaw piss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Cat 160 / 4,504 Report Post Posted May 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, lobsterpaw said: it's hard enough to get any new player to use !roles already, and frankly nobody uses !rolesextra. nobody is going to want to use another command, and adding every custom weapon onto that will just make it an information overload. obviously it's your prerogative to make whatever post you want, but i don't think your suggestion is mutually exclusive with mine. the main issue is people shooting undead/shinigami because they think they're evil- we don't need to throw the kitchen sink at it. more =/= better edit: +1 in my opinion, anyone smart enough to read the roles would be able to recognize a model just by a short description of it in the roles list, so I think most of the problem would be solved by that. as you said, quite a few players don't even read the roles, part of the reason being because even with my simplified list its still quite long. I think another reason a models command would work is because you just have to look at images, you don't have to spend time reading descriptions of the roles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysin_ 540 / 13,162 Report Post Posted May 6, 2022 Edited May 6, 2022 by BlazingArson 22 minutes ago, Neon Cat said: in my opinion, anyone smart enough to read the roles would be able to recognize a model just by a short description of it in the roles list I think it's kinda stupid to say this lol. and it really depends how you describe it. Take Doom Slayer. You could describe its model as "Has the model of the character from the game Doom", but then theres people who don't know anything about that game. Bad example cause doom slayer also has the music but still. Also, Infected and Undead have very similar models, how would you differentiate them in a way thats clear enough? Shinigami and Awoken could probably get away with just a short description, ive actually never seen bulwarks model cause I always die on bulwark rounds or am the bulwark and dont look at the model when I die but infected and undead, the main problem, would be very hard to differentiate in a description 8 hours ago, Neon Cat said: I think a better idea than this would be adding another command showing all the custom role models I agree with lobsterpaws comment, no one would use a new command. You acknowledge yourself that barely anyone uses !roles, just because its just images doesn't mean more people will use it. People just don't want to open a site while they are in game. A new command is just pushing the problem out of the way, not actually addressing it. it could still be made, but at the very least infected and undead need images in the !roles command, they are just too similar. Edited May 6, 2022 by BlazingArson Made by @Clavers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Cat 160 / 4,504 Report Post Posted May 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, BlazingArson said: but infected and undead, the main problem, would be very hard to differentiate in a description as this is the main problem, I think that images put in spoilers would do the trick Spoiler like this but with big image instead ( b i g i m a g e ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...