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So just a quick question, is it against the rules on a map like say, rooftops to jump to the bottom of the map with a box or other item you can stand on before the seeker is released (at which point the hider cannot yet be killed by the bottom of the map), then stand on the box at the bottom of the map?

 

For the longest time I was told this was against the rules and I've seen people get teleported or slain for it in the past, but I was recently told by a non-admin that it wasn't against the rules, and I've asked a couple admins but they never answered me.

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As I did tell you in chat before, it isn't against the rules because anyone can do the same jump or throw another box to get you, therefore it is not something unfair

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34 minutes ago, Fafy said:

As I did tell you in chat before, it isn't against the rules because anyone can do the same jump or throw another box to get you, therefore it is not something unfair

 

But then why was it against the rules before? Nothing in the MOTD has changed regarding it, it was considered a map exploit before I believe. Also, there are certain spots where once you get their pre-round before the seeker is released, you can't be reached.

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1 minute ago, SSPigeonShit said:

 

But then why was it against the rules before? Nothing in the MOTD has changed regarding it, it was considered a map exploit before I believe.

It was never against the rules, admins make mistakes too. We'll make sure this doesn't happen again

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5 minutes ago, Fafy said:

It was never against the rules, admins make mistakes too. We'll make sure this doesn't happen again

 

It wasn't just admins, it was at least one sever manager since I've been playing on GFL HNS as well.

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16 minutes ago, SSPigeonShit said:

 

It wasn't just admins, it was at least one sever manager since I've been playing on GFL HNS as well.

I highly doubt that. But as I said, it wont happen again. Let's leave this as it is now

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I, personally, don't specifically recall any server managers enforcing that, for lack of a better word, spot, on ttt_rooftops. I do recall minor debate on this topic previously.

 

The rules are somewhat vague in this regard, I'll update the MOTD to clarify this as it is map-specific.

 

From my knowledge there are no spots that seekers are incapeable of reaching via merely jumping from the correct location, even if I am mistaken, seekers can use the same means as hiders to get to said location 

 

 (E.g. 2x Box-train.)

 

Fafy explained this fairly well, I thought I may as well recap.

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57 minutes ago, Zexired said:

From my knowledge there are no spots that seekers are incapeable of reaching via merely jumping from the correct location, even if I am mistaken, seekers can use the same means as hiders to get to said location 

 

Using that same logic, then why is prop surfing not allowed?

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Oh for fuckssake

Now I'm triggered

 

Because, once again, as far as I'm aware and from all of my previous experiences-

 

Note: That's a lot of experience.

 

-every corner of the bottom of that map is reachable entirely by jumping off a, or, multiple buildings. If a hider can get to it, a seeker with seeker speed most likely can too.

 

"Ah yes, let me just stack 2 boxes in front of me one-at-a-time into the sky"

 

Prop-surfing allows you to get to unintended/inaccessible spots, I get that, similarly to that of using a box-train, however in this case, you can get to wherever these people are by jumping. I already agreed that something needs to be changed/updated, that 'something' being rules and how they need to be out-lined with a map-specific rule regarding this in order to ensure that no admins mis-interpret the means used to get to these spots, as prop-surfing/flying/whatever-the-fuck-you-want-to-say-it-is. Not that they'd be wrong for doing this, they're just doing there jobs. A box-train of 2 crates on a kill floor that you can jump to isn't prop-surfing.

 

A box-train also doesn't require you to be able to do 57 full rotations with a mouse in 3.7 mili-seconds with a water bottle on an exact 78 degree angle to send yourself into the stratosphere, or spam "E" at Mach 3 with a box slammed up your arse.

Not only is there a major difference in how both of these are done, but also why they're done: Prop-surfing/flying is done in order to gain speed, height and reach places you other-wise couldn't. A box-train is used to move on a place that you're stuck to via 2 or more props, can't get out of and will die if you try to.

 

You can reach places you other-wise couldn't with special rounds like low-grav and 1 gravity, the trick-or-treat-event Jump boosts, speed boosts, whips, boosting with another player.
 

A box-train is nothing like prop-surfing or prop-flying, that's like comparing door-spamming to being hit by a train. One is fun, the other is door-spamming.

 

Using your logic, you could just say that using 2 pre-placed props to get to a location is against the rules, placing down 2, or even a single prop in order to get elsewhere could be considered against the rules. Not only is it not viable to enforce, it ruins the flow of gameplay, fun, and general fucking logic.

 

That's why we don't have it against the rules.

 

TL;DR
Shut

 

 

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