Gustavus 16 / 484 Report Post Posted January 12, 2021 Defective is overall worse than a normal traitor in a multitude of ways and should be changed. Issues #1: Your shop sucks.You have no access to traitor items (most of which are extremely useful, as get this, a traitor) and you only have access to detective items (which, get this aren't paticularly useful as a traitor. Except for p90 and health station, but that doesn't really make up for not haveing an extra credit). This can be solved by giving defective a custom shop that both has detective and traitor items, which wouldn't be that hard to do. Issue #2: You don't spawn with a detective hat. Literally at the start of the round you can instantly be found out to be defective. If this is impossible to solve, the role needs to removed, simple as that. Issue #3: the second one detective is dead and another detective has killed a traitor or multiple detectives have killed traitors or multiple detectives are dead you're instantly exposed. You essentially get severely punished for your T buddy's mistakes. This wasn't a problem when the convar was set to show dead defectives as detective but when that was set up people didn't like it because it required them to actually figure out who the defective was instead of brainlessly waiting for detectives to die / get proven Issue #4: On any map with a detective room, you cannot enter the detective room, instantly proving you to be a defective. If this is unsolvable it would require for either said maps to get removed (67th way and innocent motel) Issue #5: On certain maps, detectives show up green in tester while defectives show up red. This is a much less minor issue compared to issue #4 but still really sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysin_ 540 / 13,218 Report Post Posted January 12, 2021 issue 5 isnt an issue, it makes sense. The first issue can be resolved by adding better items to the detective shop. Other than that pls fix if possible Made by @Clavers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burriss75 34 / 2,096 Report Post Posted January 12, 2021 10 hours ago, Gustavus said: Issue #3: the second one detective is dead and another detective has killed a traitor or multiple detectives have killed traitors or multiple detectives are dead you're instantly exposed. You essentially get severely punished for your T buddy's mistakes. This wasn't a problem when the convar was set to show dead defectives as detective but when that was set up people didn't like it because it required them to actually figure out who the defective was instead of brainlessly waiting for detectives to die / get proven Defectives showing as det when dead just didn't work. When iding them it would say detective but if you looked in tab they were purple. It also lead a lot of people to get rdmed because "OH NO HE KILLED A DETECTIVE" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis 578 / 12,012 Report Post Posted January 12, 2021 I think Defective is fine where it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
