MeisterKleister 5 / 1,555 Report Post Posted February 4, 2017 Edited February 4, 2017 by MeisterKleister Hi all. I probably hadn't seriously played in quite a while on the Surf RPG server. I (sorta) started again today and noticed some things have changed, almost all of which were totally fine by me. However the one thing that did bother me really badly was the Stealth skill. It's become way too OP, in my opinion. Some high-level players are virtually invisible at a distance or behind glass or before any non-uniform background. On top of that come the glowing bullet trails which can obscure the vision further. I haven't seen this insane degree of Stealth on any other RPG server I've been on, and I don't remember it being this bad last time I seriously played. Some screenshots to prove my point: The purple trail is coming from an enemy in jail. Same as above; I think he's barely visible here. (Look at the radar, if you don't believe me that there's someone there. Can you see his floating gun? same as above Here he's crouching on top of the ramp shortly before killing me (yes, there is someone one the ramp slightly to the left of my reticle -- literally invisible.) Now I am aware that these screenshot are low-quality Jpegs, but it's not much better in gameplay. It's almost painful to my eyes. My suggestion would be to strongly nerf the stealth skill. Limit it to 3 levels at most, make it more expensive, and make the maximum transparency effect weaker (like current level 2 stealth). Stealth in itself isn't a bad skill. I've never really had anything against it. But this is just too much. As I see it, this is just bad balancing. Thanks for reading. PS: I could also suggest a better version of this map, but I'll post about that in the map suggestion thread. Edited February 4, 2017 by MeisterKleister Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 1,651 / 17,972 Report Post Posted February 4, 2017 Edited February 4, 2017 by RickGrimesTM Jesus I didnt even realise I was that invisible and I dont even have max stealth. I agree that stealth is going to need a nerf big time... Edited February 4, 2017 by RickGrimesTM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
MeisterKleister 5 / 1,555 Report Post Posted February 4, 2017 Edited February 4, 2017 by MeisterKleister 54 minutes ago, RickGrimesTM said: Jesus I didnt even realise I was that invisible and I dont even have max stealth. I agree that stealth is going to need a nerf big time... Thanks. To be clear, the screenshots make it seem a bit worse than it actually is, because the Jpeg quality used by Steam is poor and the image is static -- you're more visible while moving, kinda like Predator. But anyway, I haven't seen Stealth to this high degree before and I still think it's way too much. I really couldn't see you in the last image while playing, I simply shot at the point from which the purple trails were coming. If you don't mind me asking, what Stealth level do you have? Edited February 4, 2017 by MeisterKleister Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavia 72 / 2,910 Report Post Posted February 4, 2017 I do believe that it is an issue with the anarchist terrorist playermodel. For some reason, it seems to be affected by stealth much more than any other playermodel in the game. I don't know what we can really do about it, other than removing it from !store to stop people abusing it. Some maps use the anarchist playermodels, and I don't believe you can change that without editing the map, but we will look into it, and see if we can fix it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephnessed 150 / 4,551 Report Post Posted February 5, 2017 It's Nerf or nothing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeisterKleister 5 / 1,555 Report Post Posted February 5, 2017 Edited February 5, 2017 by MeisterKleister Thanks for looking into this! 18 hours ago, Octavia said: I do believe that it is an issue with the anarchist terrorist playermodel. For some reason, it seems to be affected by stealth much more than any other playermodel in the game. I don't know what we can really do about it, other than removing it from !store to stop people abusing it. Some maps use the anarchist playermodels, and I don't believe you can change that without editing the map, but we will look into it, and see if we can fix it. I think that's it. I just took another two screenshots. Edited February 5, 2017 by MeisterKleister Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie 151 / 3,949 Report Post Posted February 26, 2017 Maybe even just limiting the amount of stealth a player could have, rather then changing a bunch of things. I've seen this particularly on the US server to be a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
Rena 2,779 / 33,688 Report Post Posted March 30, 2017 Edited March 30, 2017 by Korowa Giving this thread a very late bump, anarchist player model was removed from store 3-5 days after this or so, so that model is avoided in maps that don't have it. I have forgotten to mention it back then, but stealth still needs a bit of a nerf eitherway. Edited March 30, 2017 by Korowa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Achievements
