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hi everyone these are my opinions on the current admin application system

 

requirements 

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Perhaps you could add a part that says "Should be an active figure in the community" (which is obviously open to interpretation) - I believe admins should always be established community figures and known by the playerbase 

 

On top of this, if possible, I recommend that the current admin applications operate on a system where a current admin must recommend an applicant, preventing a large portion of troll retard apps and facilitating interactions between the players and admins! This would also ensure that at the very least ONE admin is familiar with the player since I also believe that all admin applicants should be very well acquainted with current admins.

 

 

 

The application itself

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After reading some 50 something admin applications over the years I've realized that many of the admin apps just say the same exact shit - "Make the server a more friendly place," "Stop micspam and autism," etc etc

I would like the admin applications to actually be unique and realistic - the amount of clowns promising to reform the entire server or claiming that the server changed their life is actually ridiculous. 

 

Some real examples -

" I don't want to lose GFL CSGO ZE. I wish to give back to the server for all the memories and friends it has given me."

" GFL has become a place of refuge for me. "

"Supporting this server in more ways than one has always been something I wanted to do, because I have seen how much joy it brings to the hundreds of people that play on the server. "

 

calm down nerds lmfao this is a zombie gamemode server on counter strike

 

I think the current questions should be changed or new questions added so that more of the applicant's personality and qualifications are shown, cause the current questions just invite the same repetitive shit to be repeated.

 

Perhaps add questions asking for real qualifications, such as past experience with an admin position or maybe irl jobs

 

ANYTHING TO MAKE APPLICATIONS SHOW REAL PERSONALITY, HEART, AND PASSION

 

 

thanks for reading retard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On a game not unlike this one, on a server not that far away, in a time long ago, I was an admin for a gaming server.   And what I can tell you after many years with the Fuck Around Gang that it's a  tedious and uninspiring job and the less admins the better.   Don't be hurt went they don't pick you, you maybe great for the job but the job may not be good for you.     Just be positive. 

 

And I don't think I've had a job yet where being a gaming server admin came in handy, not even being a supervisor.  

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1 hour ago, Afugy said:

On a game not unlike this one, on a server not that far away, in a time long ago, I was an admin for a gaming server.   And what I can tell you after many years with the Fuck Around Gang that it's a  tedious and uninspiring job and the less admins the better.   Don't be hurt went they don't pick you, you maybe great for the job but the job may not be good for you.     Just be positive. 

 

And I don't think I've had a job yet where being a gaming server admin came in handy, not even being a supervisor.  

 

what the fuck are you talking about? Not a single thing that you said is relevant to this post

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@Flops is an old, old member of GFL, and someone who has experience.  Any useful advice put forth by them should be considered. If rejected, fine.

I'm of the opinion that other servers need to update their requirements, not just this one. There is a valid point being presented, and it goes much further than just this server.

GFL is constantly changing & morphing - if it's to survive in the long run, adjustments may need to be made.

I also see the same old reasons given in admin apps - copy & paste works wonders....

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I think apps should be a private discussion for admins and candidates and not a public meme fest like they have become 

 

also, I have been feeling really good lately, and thinking about applying for admin....

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We did consider admin sponsorship at one point but I think that may result in a lot of dick sucking. 

 

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Just make admin apps private. I know it sucks there will be no more meme apps anymore but it's nothing crazy. Hide the applicants post from the public, just show the name to the public to whoever made the application and allow reactions and or comments for members/the community in how they feel about the person, but just keep the juicy long paragraphs to admin eyes only. Something along those lines.

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6 minutes ago, Some ze guy said:

Just make admin apps private. I know it sucks there will be no more meme apps anymore but it's nothing crazy. Hide the applicants post from the public, just show the name to the public to whoever made the application and allow reactions and or comments for members/the community in how they feel about the person, but just keep the juicy long paragraphs to admin eyes only. Something along those lines.

thats retarded

if youre going to show the name and date might as well show the post, not sure if thats even possible with the forum software being used

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17 minutes ago, Malal said:

thats retarded

if youre going to show the name and date might as well show the post, not sure if thats even possible with the forum software being used

How is that even retarded? It's a suggestion. How is anything going to be solved if people can't throw suggestions out, and just call it retarded? That's why I said something along those lines. I'm just giving some ideas. No shit if it's going to be retarted, they ain't facts.

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1 hour ago, Some ze guy said:

How is that even retarded?

Why would you hide the post from the public but allow people to see if someone applies, it does literally nothing but make admin applications more secretive and distances the players from the staff, there is no benefit to it.

1 hour ago, Some ze guy said:

How is anything going to be solved if people can't throw suggestions out

You can throw suggestions out, you can also have people give their mind about it.

 

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17 hours ago, reduct said:

We did consider admin sponsorship at one point but I think that may result in a lot of dick sucking. 

 

I think that admins are more than capable of determining when that’s happening, and they can make their own judgements if that happens. Obviously there is a fine line, but who the hell cant tell that someone is going overboard with dick sucking? 

 

 

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You gotta stick to the script on these apps. If you waver in any direction or go into detail you'll be told that you'd be too strict.

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23 minutes ago, Malal said:

Do you do anything at parties other than be a wallflower?


stop getting my topics locked please god

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18 hours ago, Malal said:

Why would you hide the post from the public but allow people to see if someone applies, it does literally nothing but make admin applications more secretive and distances the players from the staff, there is no benefit to it.

 

 

As stated above, the whole point is to stop meme apps from being created...

Someone is much more likely to keep their app serious if it is only between them and the admins.

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5 hours ago, Flops said:

I think that admins are more than capable of determining when that’s happening, and they can make their own judgements if that happens. Obviously there is a fine line, but who the hell cant tell that someone is going overboard with dick sucking? 

 

 

Sure that's true, but enough dick sucking happens as is, it's annoying and I wouldn't want to deal with more of it because people want a sponsor.

 

I agree with the other points in your post though.

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  1. i think admins need more dick abusing and less sucking
  2. There is an advantage to having admin apps private @Malal If you notice, many people will put feelers out there in discord and even on the forums to gauge if they should apply or not out of fear for the public shaming that happens as a result of having your admin app denied. Specific feedback from Admins in the app has been posted in chat, and become short lived or long lived memes. Shame is a powerful motivator, and is something that should be removed from the process. My suggestion would be that apps should be submitted via a web form similar to how you submit a map to be tested, and ONLY existing admins will see and respond to the applicant via discord DM. 

I like the ideas of having an admin need to sponsor an app, or as another option have an admin be assigned as a sponsor of sorts once the app is made to talk to the candidate, monitor them, and then report back to the other admin for additional input before voting. 

 

I hope makes sense to you of what some potential advantages are to having apps private. 

 

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On 6/27/2019 at 7:58 PM, Elemental said:

As stated above, the whole point is to stop meme apps from being created...

Someone is much more likely to keep their app serious if it is only between them and the admins.

Or you can just nuke the meme app and ban the person or w/e.

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necroing thread cause one relevant person responded - can admins give their thoughts on this topic/do something about it?
 

 

( or at least tell the community ur not gonna do anything )

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32 minutes ago, Flops said:

necroing thread cause one relevant person responded - can admins give their thoughts on this topic/do something about it?
 

 

( or at least tell the community ur not gonna do anything )

We're already working on changes.

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